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The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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No; attacks on US service members and bases in war zones are often called terrorism. The term has absolutely become overly broad.

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Sure; as an example, the attack on the USS Cole. Clear military target, widely described as a terrorist attack, including by the FBI (https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/uss-cole-bombing).

Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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If it needs to be given away, maybe to a museum belonging to the United Nations? I'm not sure if there are truly extraterritorial museums, though.

No, the United Nations does not own museums.

whats this? https://www.ungeneva.org/en/knowledge/museum

Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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They can keep the stupid rock provided they return the $45 trillion they stole from India over 200 years. https://www.financialexpress.com/india-news/british-took-45-...

IIRC that is an absolutely bullshit number based on taking what the Brits actually did steal, giving it the most favorable conversion to USD, and then applying a few hundred years of compounding interest.

7% APR for 300 years is a 650,000,000x return.

Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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Not a fan of the British crown (why are they exempt from taxes during record high inflation) but who should they return the diamond to - Afghanistan (it was the Durranis that looted it from Nader Shah after he looted it from the Mughals), India (Maharaja Ranjit Singh took it as tribute from Shah Shuja after conquering Kashmir from the Durranis), or Pakistan (the Sikh Empire capital was Lahore and the Durrani Empire c…

Who would they pay taxes to? Themselves?

Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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James Acaster does a great job highlighting the absurdity of the British refusing to repatriate stuff taken from the empire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x73PkUvArJY

It's only absurd if you think that countries ought to behave like people in a society. All the laws and rules of societies serve one purpose, to keep themselves stable. The abstraction of Justice doesn't apply outside of society, unfortunately.

The actions countries take are beyond ethics? How exactly does a country take an action?

Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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Not on the scale as afterwards, no.

The problem with ancient history as that you never really knew what happened and exactly how many people died. Europeans certainly weren't the first empire to lay claim to India. Warfare, invasions and famine are as old as human history. India is one of the oldest civilised parts of the world so has had its fair share of all https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_India

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Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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Not a fan of the British crown (why are they exempt from taxes during record high inflation) but who should they return the diamond to - Afghanistan (it was the Durranis that looted it from Nader Shah after he looted it from the Mughals), India (Maharaja Ranjit Singh took it as tribute from Shah Shuja after conquering Kashmir from the Durranis), or Pakistan (the Sikh Empire capital was Lahore and the Durrani Empire c…

Technically speaking, we don't really know who owns it. But what we do know is that the British definitely doesn't own it. If somebody stole this from the British today, they have no right to complain!

Britain definitely has the best claim. They were given it in a treaty almost 200 years ago, and are currently in possession of it.

Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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I am so tired of people romanticizing the monarchy, especially one of the bloodiest colonizers on this planet - the British monarchy! The year is 2022! Can't we finally grow up and stop telling girls stories about princes on white horses and stop talking about monarchs like they are some kinds of saviors!? Instead of wasting billions less than 20 years from now to wipe our Charles' face and name, end this now and tur…

> turn them into a British Disneyland!

That's been the case already for decades.

The Royals are largely a revenue-generating tourist attraction.

Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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Does it have to go to any country? Duleep Singh was the owner, when the British took it. Who is his legal heir?

He had eight children (in exile in England), but none of them had heirs.

So we do it British style, go up the family tree and find the nearest cousin or whatever.
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