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The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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Put it in a museum in India. Yes, it might piss some off, but this idea of keeping the status quo (keeping it with the British) because it is complicated is ridiculous.

If it needs to be given away, maybe to a museum belonging to the United Nations? I'm not sure if there are truly extraterritorial museums, though.

No, the United Nations does not own museums.

Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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post #111
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If it needs to be given away, maybe to a museum belonging to the United Nations? I'm not sure if there are truly extraterritorial museums, though.

No, the United Nations does not own museums.

Also, I don't think the Taliban government has been recognized in the UN yet, which makes stuff murkier soverignity wise.

Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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post #83

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So instead of an an actual solution to the given problem you resorted to snark? Timeless.

it's just pretext. The obvious answer is, let the parties in question figure it out. I'm sure they'll come to an agreement on how to share custody of historical artifacts as long as they come back home rather than stay in Britain. Art and historical objects circle through different museums all the time, it's not a new concept. "Gosh I plundered something from India or Pakistan, oh my whoever will I give it back to?!"…

>I'm sure they'll come to an agreement

That's not how geopolitics works, particularly in that section of the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Pakistan_relatio...

Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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Not a fan of the British crown (why are they exempt from taxes during record high inflation) but who should they return the diamond to - Afghanistan (it was the Durranis that looted it from Nader Shah after he looted it from the Mughals), India (Maharaja Ranjit Singh took it as tribute from Shah Shuja after conquering Kashmir from the Durranis), or Pakistan (the Sikh Empire capital was Lahore and the Durrani Empire c…

Technically speaking, we don't really know who owns it. But what we do know is that the British definitely doesn't own it. If somebody stole this from the British today, they have no right to complain!

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Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So instead of an an actual solution to the given problem you resorted to snark? Timeless.

it's just pretext. The obvious answer is, let the parties in question figure it out. I'm sure they'll come to an agreement on how to share custody of historical artifacts as long as they come back home rather than stay in Britain. Art and historical objects circle through different museums all the time, it's not a new concept. "Gosh I plundered something from India or Pakistan, oh my whoever will I give it back to?!"…

Two of the parties have not figured out a bigger problem: Kashmir.

Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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Not a fan of the British crown (why are they exempt from taxes during record high inflation) but who should they return the diamond to - Afghanistan (it was the Durranis that looted it from Nader Shah after he looted it from the Mughals), India (Maharaja Ranjit Singh took it as tribute from Shah Shuja after conquering Kashmir from the Durranis), or Pakistan (the Sikh Empire capital was Lahore and the Durrani Empire c…

Put it in a museum in India. Yes, it might piss some off, but this idea of keeping the status quo (keeping it with the British) because it is complicated is ridiculous.

What made you pick India, and not Pakistan or Afghanistan?

Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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Sri Lanka hasn't recognized the Taliban government and India would also say no due to the China factor.

No one has yet recognized the Taliban government. Give it to Bangladesh then.

Pakistan would say no due to strained relations, and state level Indian governments would pressure the federal government to say no due to anti-Bangladeshi sentiment in India (sort of similar to anti-Central American sentiment in the US with an added Islamophobic element or Ethnic element depending on the region) - appearing to vacillate to Bangladesh over what is basically a dumb symbolic issue would piss off voters in very narrow Indian elections.

Re: The Koh-i-Noor diamond, and why the British won’t give it back (2017)

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post #115
post #107

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Technically speaking, we don't really know who owns it. But what we do know is that the British definitely doesn't own it. If somebody stole this from the British today, they have no right to complain!

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I guess you and GP are in agreement. Whoever steals it, owns it.
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