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Re: Code sober, get things done drunk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not even stuff like fish oil, vitamin D, piracetam, gingko, stuff like that?

Nope. Good diet, plenty of exercise. :-)

At least Vitamin D is definitely worth it (unlike the controversial suggestions of the OP about booze) - at worst, it will do nothing (i.e. your diet and locale means you have sufficient Vitamin D), but I definitely notice a positive difference.

Re: Code sober, get things done drunk

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Actually, this is why proof assistants are so great. You drink a couple glasses of champagne at someone's PhD defense reception, and you can go back to your office and try as you may, it won't let you prove anything incorrect.

Re: Code sober, get things done drunk

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"We Brits believe that alcohol has magical powers – that it causes us to shed our inhibitions and become aggressive, promiscuous, disorderly and even violent. But we are wrong. In high doses, alcohol impairs our reaction times, muscle control, co-ordination, short-term memory, perceptual field, cognitive abilities and ability to speak clearly. But it does not cause us selectively to break specific social rules. It do…

This is a really baffling thing to quote (and even more baffling that it has been voted up).

Alcoholism is a frigging nightmare for everyone involved, irrespective of culture, and here you are regurgitating some PR nonsense written by an alcohol industry pundit.

Go spend some time at the emergency room of any major hospital and see all the PAP's (Pissed And Punched), the MVA's involving alcohol, the people getting their stomachs pumped. They deal with this every weekend. Long term, look up Korsakoff's syndrome.

You don't get this mess with, say, coffee or tea.

Re: Code sober, get things done drunk

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I have personally programmed a lot while tipsy (never drunk, I am not sure I would want to read that code in the morning) and it allows me to get over the humps of writing that utility function that needed to be written but I was putting off, it allows me to just start putting code down in vim without really worrying whether or not it is good enough... Let me quantify good enough a little better. I am a perfectionist…

I couldn't have put it better. Drinking a little definitely helps on a rush towards release.

Re: Code sober, get things done drunk

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My first thought is that you're opening yourself up to litigation. I drink wine and occasionally code with a glass of wine - the easy stuff, and I only commit the next morning. However, making strategic decisions, dealing with human issues and sending external communications is a bad idea. Someone I'm close is a former CEO and majority shareholder of business that generated 8 figure yearly revenue. His advice to me w…

You wouldn't sign an email with "Also, I'm drunk right now" but that's effectively what you've done here. Kudos for honesty, but you've now put a time stamp that says, roughly, "I acknowledge being under the influence on Nov 27 2011, and further, this allowed me to behave differently than I normally would." Anyone you've interacted with today can go back to it. It's not just that you might be making bad decisions - y…

I think that the advice "Don't hit send until the next morning" is sound not only for post-booze emailing, but for anything done late in the day. Driving whilst overly tired (for example) is known to pose similar risks to driving under the influence of alcohol.

Although mmaunder has only mentioned holding off on emails due to drink, there are many other reasons why one might author an email one evening, but not send it in the morning (e.g. the need to check a fact with someone who has already gone to bed or is otherwise unavailable). That mmaunder was drunk is not an conclusion that can inevitably and reliably be drawn from such a timestamp.

Re: Code sober, get things done drunk

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A general piece of advice I've found helpful is "Write code like you're going to have to fix critical bugs while drunk at 2 in the morning."

Just about the worst habit I get into is to push major new code live into production and then go out to 'celebrate'. I've fixed so many production issues on a blackberry that was ssh'ed into a server while sitting at a bar counter that I don't even want to think about it. Now I know to push code during the most boring times of the week and go out to celebrate the lack of issues another night.

Re: Code sober, get things done drunk

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Just personal experience here, and you're not me so I'm sure itdoesn't apply and please feel free to ignore it, but I did this and it was great for a while. Then shit shows up and I start drinking to cope with problems I should've been facing head-on instead. At the end I had to give it up entirely. Nothing major broken in my case, thank God, but relying on the sauce to write your emails or get you on a plane reminds me of a reflex I wish I hadn't developed.

Re: Code sober, get things done drunk

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My first thought is that you're opening yourself up to litigation. I drink wine and occasionally code with a glass of wine - the easy stuff, and I only commit the next morning. However, making strategic decisions, dealing with human issues and sending external communications is a bad idea. Someone I'm close is a former CEO and majority shareholder of business that generated 8 figure yearly revenue. His advice to me w…

You wouldn't sign an email with "Also, I'm drunk right now" but that's effectively what you've done here. Kudos for honesty, but you've now put a time stamp that says, roughly, "I acknowledge being under the influence on Nov 27 2011, and further, this allowed me to behave differently than I normally would." Anyone you've interacted with today can go back to it. It's not just that you might be making bad decisions - y…

Why is this significant? Alcohol can affect judgement, but so can fatigue, depression or lust. We're humans. Our brains are housed in our bodies and we have to make decisions under all kinds of physical influences all the time.

Barring being in a fanatical teetotaler culture, why does it matter that there's a record of him writing an email while moderately drunk? Business gets done in bars, lounges and karaoke places all over the world.

It's not like he made a spontaneous marriage proposal or signed up for the military. It was just a damned email, and a satisfactory one at that.

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