Stripe abstracts away a lot of the complexities involved in the payment and banking world, but there's a ton of infrastructure there related to detecting fraud and money laundering. Unfortunately, the lack of transparency makes what might be a leaky abstraction look like a Kafkaesque bureaucratic nightmare.
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your sentence caught me off guard, maybe I am reading it wrong. Do you mean email as a payment system, or do you mean email as an example of a decentralized system?
The latter - a system that is like e-mail (decentralized) but allows people to send money to each other. We have many such systems being developed, but you get downvoted on HN for promoting them, since people assume you are a scammer, a criminal, etc.
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#63Stories like this are why ultimately all payments will transition to crypto based and self custody. Having your livelihood at the whim of an algorithm is not only not cool. It is not sustainable. None of the legacy payment rails can be trusted to run without interruption. This includes Stripe, paypal and even the expected FedNOW service being introduced next year.
However I acknowledge the issue with volatility (to be solved!).
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#65It sucks this happened to you, but like with all the PayPal hate stories, I notice you're very careful not to describe what type of business you operate.
Assuming it's legal, should it matter?
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#66I work at Stripe. Could you email me at edwin@stripe.com and I can dig into this?
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#67At what point does it make sense to sue these companies to compel them to answer these questions? I know, that's expensive... but I'm willing to contribute to a legal fund to make payment processors answer questions.
I second this! Also, a lobbying effort should be funded, to compel these companies by law to provide detailed feedback.
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#68At what point does it make sense to sue these companies to compel them to answer these questions? I know, that's expensive... but I'm willing to contribute to a legal fund to make payment processors answer questions.
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#69Side note: the cryptocurrency shills in this thread are pathetic.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
It does matter if it actually violates the TOS, or could be vaguely interpreted to do so I guess?
And how many times does a company claim you have violated TOS and then refuse to tell you how you violated the TOS? To act in this manner nullifies the TOS in my opinion.
The real culprits here are the people trying to violate the TOS, plus everybody's desire for cheap services and easy onboarding. The historical alternative was very expensive setup (e.g., spend a few years building a relationship with your local bank branch manager and establishing a financial track record). Making it easy to get started means that most problems will show up down the road, and the lower merchant costs means less money to pay for smart people to carefully untangle the truly dodgy from accounts that just look that way.