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Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B

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Post by creshal »

egeozcan wrote: post #48
nicoburns wrote: post #36

Oh hell no. Adobe is where software goes to die. Which is big shame because Figma has been great, and had serious potential to turn into the first WYSIWYG tool that would actually generate code you'd want to use. But Macromedia software was also great, and now it's mostly non-existent. I'd love for this to turn out different, but I have very low expectations.

> Adobe is where software goes to die. After EA acquiring Westwood, Macromedia is the second biggest let-down of a sale in the software industry in my book. Perhaps Skype comes close.

IMO, Skype was on the way out either way. The P2P model it used only really made sense on desktop computers running most of the day with unmetered cable broadband, which is a very limited market, vs. the increasing percentage of mobile (and laptop, and desktop-but-4G/5G-connected) users that were a net negative on Skype's resources.

So Skype was looking at a major rewrite, and building up massive server infrastructure, both of which needed lots and lots of cashflow that Skype's business model just couldn't generate.

I doubt any other company taking over Skype could've avoided ruining it.

Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B

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Post by sxg »

I'm dismayed by this acquisition but glad to see the near-universal dislike towards Adobe in this thread. How can a $150B+ company exist with this much disdain for its business practices and products? I'm guessing Adobe's primary customer base is large corporations who don't care rather than individual users?

Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B

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Post by GraphenePants »

nayroclade wrote: post #54

Many years ago, when Adobe bought Macromedia, they acquired a tool called Fireworks[1]. This was a combined bitmap and vector editor that was incredibly well-optimised for user-interface and web design, at a time when most designers were paying exorbitant license fees to do such work painfully and slowly in Photoshop and Illustrator. Fireworks was cheap, powerful, and hugely ahead of its time. Many of the features an…

Please stop breaking the site rules by incorrecting assuming malice when incompetence is sufficient.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B

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Post by pembrook »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #44
ilmiont wrote: post #28

Well that’s the end of Figma then. It was fantastic while it lasted.

Although it’s still great software I’m stopping usage today because a) I refuse to support adobe and b) I’m confident the software will progressively get much worse, so any investment today is a waste of time I should spend finding and learning something else. Is there a blender of tools like this?

It’s not free, but Sketch is a fantastic (also MacOS native) alternative.

Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B

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Post by seanalltogether »

nayroclade wrote: post #54

Many years ago, when Adobe bought Macromedia, they acquired a tool called Fireworks[1]. This was a combined bitmap and vector editor that was incredibly well-optimised for user-interface and web design, at a time when most designers were paying exorbitant license fees to do such work painfully and slowly in Photoshop and Illustrator. Fireworks was cheap, powerful, and hugely ahead of its time. Many of the features an…

I still keep a copy of CS6 installed just for Fireworks. It was the first design tool that made sense to me as a programmer that wanted to think of everything in terms of pixels and object groups. I should probably move on at this point but it still does what I need it to do.

Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B

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Post by darkwater »

GraphenePants wrote: post #94
nayroclade wrote: post #54

Many years ago, when Adobe bought Macromedia, they acquired a tool called Fireworks[1]. This was a combined bitmap and vector editor that was incredibly well-optimised for user-interface and web design, at a time when most designers were paying exorbitant license fees to do such work painfully and slowly in Photoshop and Illustrator. Fireworks was cheap, powerful, and hugely ahead of its time. Many of the features an…

Please stop breaking the site rules by incorrecting assuming malice when incompetence is sufficient. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I guess you are being ironic, but if not, that applies to individuals commenting here, not companies acquiring other businesses.

Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B

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Post by egeozcan »

mckirk wrote: post #76
egeozcan wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Adobe is where software goes to die. After EA acquiring Westwood, Macromedia is the second biggest let-down of a sale in the software industry in my book. Perhaps Skype comes close.

And here I was, having a good day, when you had to remind me of EA's atrocities... Kane Lives!

Not many people can believe this (How many C&C gamers are on HN after all?) but I'm still pissed about it to this day. I could replace even the Google Reader, but not the fun I had playing the games from Westwood Studios.

Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B

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Post by iddan »

notaboredguy wrote: post #58
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although it’s still great software I’m stopping usage today because a) I refuse to support adobe and b) I’m confident the software will progressively get much worse, so any investment today is a waste of time I should spend finding and learning something else. Is there a blender of tools like this?

Inkscape, penpot and/or maybe gimp afaik.

Inkscape is unusable sorry. It can’t support any of my workflows. The only real alternative for Adobe at the time being is Affinity

Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B

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Post by kaladin-jasnah »

pembrook wrote: post #22

I’d put the odds at about 95% that Adobe will ruin Figma with bloat, 14 different “Creative Cloud” background processes, and hostile pricing models within 5 years. This is huge news for Sketch. However, to be honest, this is the type of acquisition that should be blocked IMO. Adobe is literally acquiring a direct competitor here. To me the consumer harm is pretty clear. Instead of a more competent org (Figma) growing…

Sketch only works on macOS, though.
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