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The Ethereum merge is done

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Re: The Ethereum merge is done

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It worked. And it reduces the world's energy bill by 0.5%: https://twitter.com/JonathanBeuys/status/1570305323629527046 I feel a great disturbance in the force. As if a million miners cried out all at once and then were suddenly silenced.

Wait, the Ethereum blockchain alone was consuming 0.5% of the world's total energy?

Wait until you hear how much of the world's total energy is wasted on ads (manufacturing, transmission, power usage) or spam email.

Re: The Ethereum merge is done

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> The Merge is one of the largest technological events in the industry to date. I feel kinda ashamed. I work in the IT industry and I claim to have knowledge about ("good") software engineering practices, distributed systems, compilers, algorithms, etc. Nevertheless, I didn't understand a word of what the article is saying. Could you recommend serious references (preferably books and not random blogs) I could read to…

They just mean “crypto industry”, not all IT industry.

Re: The Ethereum merge is done

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I’m really curious what the GPU miners are going to be doing with their cards. Today may be as big a moment for gamers as it is for ETH devs.

I have a very very large GPU farm. We switched to ETC, for now. Why? Because it is the easiest one that doesn't require retuning everything. GPUs are like snowflakes and each one of my cards are tuned for hash/power/stability, individually. It is an insane amount of work to do this because the failure mode is that the card (and machine) crashes.

Re: The Ethereum merge is done

#255

For those interested in understanding the tech rather than the typical bashing things as beneath them, I wrote up a detailed technical explainer of how Ethereum PoS works: https://0xfoobar.substack.com/p/ethereum-proof-of-stake

Most people aren't bashing the tech, but bashing the excessive hype, fraudulent scams and money chasing.

It’s like… I can be fascinated by the creativity that goes into designing and making credit card skimmers that blend invisibly into an ATM, that doesn’t mean I like the theft…

Ref: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32843961

Re: The Ethereum merge is done

#256
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> The Merge is one of the largest technological events in the industry to date. I feel kinda ashamed. I work in the IT industry and I claim to have knowledge about ("good") software engineering practices, distributed systems, compilers, algorithms, etc. Nevertheless, I didn't understand a word of what the article is saying. Could you recommend serious references (preferably books and not random blogs) I could read to…

Here is a good video that basically explains everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBC-nXj3Ng4 This is not a very good explanation, but basically, you can have a "currency" using just asymmetric key cryptography: users simply sign "transactions". The problem is that you need a central authority to confirm the order of transactions, otherwise the recipient of a "transaction" will not know if the funds associated…

Is there any research on cryptomoney with central authorities, but also with reduced attack surfaces on a whole system? E.g. authority may be cryptographically bound in some way to only store the database and emit new tokens, but cannot spend them because they get freeze-signed by a receiver to their wallet. Then when you get a payment you check the path of money and algorithmically accept that path only. Anyone who accepts a similar subpath is on their own, because it is double-spending. Subpaths within few minutes self-cancel to prevent instant double-spend.

This is just a vague example, not a working idea. The point of it is that the level of security and trustlessness is not always required to be absolute. E.g. even with fully-secure pow crypto we still have to trust non-crypto claims about usdt, [non?]shitcoins, “hot” wallets, and other maybe-not-ponzis.

Re: The Ethereum merge is done

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ethereum isn't supposed to be money (though it can be), it's fuel you use for doing other things. Do people use less oil because it's deflationary and gets consumed when used? No, because it's useful now. The most likely end game for Ethereum is being a replacement for all backend financial systems. Instead of having to hire teams of people to verify things or integrate various legacy systems together, everyone can b…

Banks would never switch to a system that makes all transactions publicly traceable, and they shouldn't. The industry has investigated blockchains for many years, since distributed consensus for transactions is a problem they actually have. They might run their own private chains. But it won't be ETH.

It won't be public and it won't be distributed - it would quickly revert to some form of centralized piece, hopefully one at each bank, but will probably end up with one huge central point. They will still call it blockchain to attract gen z to work there, but behind the scenes it will work just as badly as the current mess. It's in the bank's/banking industry's blood and regulations to centralize. Whatever gets thrown their way will get locked down and centralized. I can just imagine the huge audit systems that will spring up to audit the blockchain (where ideally you wouldn't need to audit it to begin with, just look at it cause all the same info is in front of all parties, unmodified). Nightmare fuel actually. Better just to start from scratch (new banks, new core banking software, different kinds of audits and regulations).

Re: The Ethereum merge is done

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> Edgington, who began his career researching climate science before eventually landing in crypto, understood where his daughter was coming from. “Rightly or wrongly, she'd absorbed a very toxic environmental narrative,” he said. “I mean, it's kind of hard to defend ‘stickers for grownups’ that emit, by some estimates, a megaton of [carbon dioxide] a week.”

On a personal note, Ben is a really really nice and smart guy. I have a huge amount of respect for him.

Re: The Ethereum merge is done

#259
post #8

I’m really curious what the GPU miners are going to be doing with their cards. Today may be as big a moment for gamers as it is for ETH devs.

Check out the hashrate for Ethereum Classic [0], it doubled overnight. Would be interesting to see if it's sustained.

[0]: https://www.coinwarz.com/mining/ethereum-classic/hashrate-ch...

Re: The Ethereum merge is done

#260

Great! Unlike BTC the miners can sell their gear so they are not down on their investment.. I imagine BTC miners putting up a good fight if this was on the table and they stand to lose all their asics

One, they are going to sasturate the market which will drive the prices down significantly. They cannot not saturate the market, because GPUs age due to new developments by manufacturers. This already makes the prospect of recouping initial investments rahter dim. Consider that non-miner market has a huge distain for miners and are willing to pay premium on new cards just to stick to the miners. I don't think resale…

No, the most ROI efficient cards are 4-5 year old cards (like the RX480). ETH's algo, ethash, is memory hard, which means that it is a false narrative that buying the latest card is necessary. The bottle neck isn't the speed of the card, but the speed of the memory controller.
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