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The Ethereum merge is done

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It worked. And it reduces the world's energy bill by 0.5%: https://twitter.com/JonathanBeuys/status/1570305323629527046 I feel a great disturbance in the force. As if a million miners cried out all at once and then were suddenly silenced.

Now all we need to do is shutdown the gaming industry.

It’s so wasteful to be using electricity when we could all be playing chess or Yazee instead.

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Great, now all that energy can be "wasted" rendering pixels with GPUs instead.

This was always going to happen. Eth was never going to realistically compete with Bitcoin for energy. Now Bitcoin is the only PoW network remaining, as it should be.

Looking forward to seeing Bitcoin play a pivotal role in renewable energy infrastructure build-out and capturing flared and vented methane to be one of the biggest carbon-negative industries on the planet.

It arrived right when we needed it to tackle carbon emissions.

Re: The Ethereum merge is done

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It worked. And it reduces the world's energy bill by 0.5%: https://twitter.com/JonathanBeuys/status/1570305323629527046 I feel a great disturbance in the force. As if a million miners cried out all at once and then were suddenly silenced.

Now all we need to do is shutdown the gaming industry. It’s so wasteful to be using electricity when we could all be playing chess or Yazee instead.

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Re: The Ethereum merge is done

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This doesn't really change anything, I still cannot find any legitimate use cases for blockchain, Proof of Stake or not. I would happy to be proven wrong, but this is extremely rare as I can't find any legitimate actual useful use case since Bitcoin and Ethereum's existence.

> I still cannot find any legitimate use cases for blockchain Blockchains solve the double-spend problem. Allows for scarcity in the digital realm. Ethereum is a platform for decentralized finance, anyone can borderlessly lend and borrow in seconds. Endless possibilities.

> anyone can borderlessly lend and borrow in seconds.

You can only do _secured_ lending and borrowing, and only where the security is, itself, a highly liquid digital token.

Person A lending USDC to person B, taking ETH for security, isn't doing much for the world at large except allowing B to defer his capital gains tax.

Unsecured lending, backed only by the faith or expectations we have around future cash flows, is how the world creates opportunity for true investment and growth... and impossible in a trustless and anonymous system like crypto.

Hardly limitless possibilities

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> The Merge is one of the largest technological events in the industry to date. I feel kinda ashamed. I work in the IT industry and I claim to have knowledge about ("good") software engineering practices, distributed systems, compilers, algorithms, etc. Nevertheless, I didn't understand a word of what the article is saying. Could you recommend serious references (preferably books and not random blogs) I could read to…

Nothing is going on. You are on the right track. There's an incredible amount of word salad piled on the fact that people are playing a negative sum game when getting involved with any cryptocurrency that has transaction fees.

Not true! Cryptocurrencies have real-world productive use cases such as money-laundering, ransomware, drug and weapons trade, terrorist financing etc. As well as some less-morally-wrong stuff like hiding from oppressive regimes. A bet on crypto is a bet on the future of these activities.

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I think this is great news because it reduces wasted energy. The sooner cryptocurrency stops boiling the ocean, the sooner the rest of us can ignore it. I have no problem with weird nerds having their own hobbies (I have a model train set!) as long as they are not actively hurting anyone. Now do the same for bitcoin.

You do realize that the entire cryptocurrency space (all coins, regardless of their names) are using less electricity than the total of electronics that are in standby in US only. So, if you want to have an impact, better to reorient your efforts to have the industry do away with standby idea. That was a good idea 5 decades ago in 70's, when electronics were expensive and they lasted a decade. But nowadays, with planned obsolesce, it makes no sense to have standby technology implemented to make the electronics last longer because they fail after one year anyway due to other factors rather than transient response on startup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transient_response & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transient_state)

So, boiling the ocean is not done by this anyway, my point.

Re: The Ethereum merge is done

#237

Great, now all that energy can be "wasted" rendering pixels with GPUs instead. This was always going to happen. Eth was never going to realistically compete with Bitcoin for energy. Now Bitcoin is the only PoW network remaining, as it should be. Looking forward to seeing Bitcoin play a pivotal role in renewable energy infrastructure build-out and capturing flared and vented methane to be one of the biggest carbon-neg…

> Great, now all that energy can be "wasted" rendering pixels with GPUs instead.

Just like it was supposed to.

Re: The Ethereum merge is done

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A recent study by an American governmental organisation (I don't remember which) recently showed that Bitcoin can be used to reduce methane emissions. This in turn would make Bitcoin mining and Proof-of-work net carbon negative (significantly so if my memory of the graph accompanying the news isn't letting me down). edit: also, this is a new frontier that combines the best of both worlds for energy suppliers, bitcoin…

Let's be clear: Bitcoin is NOT reducing methane emissions or carbon emissions. Crypto mining cannot reduce anything. This is just a straw man. The study you reference discussed burning waste methane to turn into electricity, rather than gas flaring. That electricity could be used for anything. Water desalination, stored for grid balancing, powering agricultural needs or offsetting the electrical needs of the gas faci…

> That electricity could be used for anything. Water desalination, stored for grid balancing, powering agricultural needs or offsetting the electrical needs of the gas facilities.

No it precisely could not, because there's no transport infrastructure, storage or grid balancer there.

That's why they were flaring in the first place.

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> The Merge is one of the largest technological events in the industry to date. I feel kinda ashamed. I work in the IT industry and I claim to have knowledge about ("good") software engineering practices, distributed systems, compilers, algorithms, etc. Nevertheless, I didn't understand a word of what the article is saying. Could you recommend serious references (preferably books and not random blogs) I could read to…

Read 'Mastering Ethereum' https://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Ethereum-Building-Smart-Con... The short of it is: - The block chain is a distributed ledger database, where all peers hold a full copy to avoid manipulation (faking an entry is only possible by controlling >50% of machines in this peer-to-peer network). - Spending money is implemented by adding a transactional record to the blockchain ledger at the end sayin…

Mastering Ethereum is great, and the high-level concepts all still apply, but I think it's important to mention that quite a bit of it is outdated. Basically, imagine you're reading a book on Kubernetes from a few years ago. Still applicable, but some of the details and API interfaces will have changed.

Re: The Ethereum merge is done

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For those interested in understanding the tech rather than the typical bashing things as beneath them, I wrote up a detailed technical explainer of how Ethereum PoS works: https://0xfoobar.substack.com/p/ethereum-proof-of-stake

Having read your article, I still don't understand one part. The claim that the honest validators in the face of a malicious superminority can eventually leak them out, but a malicious supermajority cannot do the same to an honest superminority. I figure there would need to be some other mechanism that would tip the balance in favor of the honest validators, otherwise it seems like majority should always win.
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