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Why is every podcast sponsored by a VPN company?

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Re: Why is every podcast sponsored by a VPN company?

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... and a lot of those VPN companies are probably VC-funded. Tom Scott made a good video on the uses and non-uses of VPNs [1]. VPN advertising has changed since that video to downplay "security", but what I think is odd is that they've replaced that with advertisement that basically is "violate the terms of service of Netflix". [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVDQEoe6ZWY

Glad I'm not the only one that got the feeling this video impacted the entire VPN advertising space. All of us techies have been screaming this from day one and many tech-focused creators even talked about this publicly, but the ads kept going. Tom Scott seems to be in the perfect position where he has the technical background to understand why the ads were wrong, but also has a much wider and more general audience t…

I hope someone does a similar takedown of Masterworks (fractional art investing). I've seen way too many financial planning or finance adjacent podcasts regurgitate Masterworks claims completely uncritically to a way too impressionable audience.

Re: Why is every podcast sponsored by a VPN company?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glad I'm not the only one that got the feeling this video impacted the entire VPN advertising space. All of us techies have been screaming this from day one and many tech-focused creators even talked about this publicly, but the ads kept going. Tom Scott seems to be in the perfect position where he has the technical background to understand why the ads were wrong, but also has a much wider and more general audience t…

I hope someone does a similar takedown of Masterworks (fractional art investing). I've seen way too many financial planning or finance adjacent podcasts regurgitate Masterworks claims completely uncritically to a way too impressionable audience.

If He didn’t want them shorn, He wouldn’t have made them sheep.

Re: Why is every podcast sponsored by a VPN company?

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post #4

... and a lot of those VPN companies are probably VC-funded. Tom Scott made a good video on the uses and non-uses of VPNs [1]. VPN advertising has changed since that video to downplay "security", but what I think is odd is that they've replaced that with advertisement that basically is "violate the terms of service of Netflix". [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVDQEoe6ZWY

> violate the terms of service of Netflix

It's a technical solution to a business-created problem.

And Netflix and VPNs probably create incremental business for each other.

Re: Why is every podcast sponsored by a VPN company?

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If all these VPNs make such huge margins, and if barriers to entry are so low, then why hasn't someone undercut them?

Intelligence agencies will shut you down if you compete with them.

Wouldn't this tip their hand, exposing them as such agencies? A simpler explanation is there's a lot of money sloshing around trying to corner new or lucrative markets.

Re: Why is every podcast sponsored by a VPN company?

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There are a couple companies or industries that seem to dominate large sections of the digital ad market for videos, podcasts, live streams, social media, or other content creator focused markets.* They aren't all VPNs, but VPN is one of the main categories for sure. Not sure why these companies have a larger advertisement budget or why they are choosing those platforms over other more traditional ad opportunities. S…

Some of those obviously have negligible marginal costs. I think the ones that are less obvious, like shaving and mattresses, exhibit the same characteristics. I haven't heard this from a reliable source, but I read somewhere on the internet the founder of Dollar Shave Club bought a warehouse of low quality razors from a company that went bankrupt and misrepresented them as custom premium products. I don't know anythi…

Or perhaps that’s just what Big Shave wants you to think!

Re: Why is every podcast sponsored by a VPN company?

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My experience has been that every podcast is sponsored by a another podcast. I'm not sure where the chain ends.

it's especially annoying when they start to advertise each podcast on each other's feed and you get a sort of quadratic spam across every channel.

Re: Why is every podcast sponsored by a VPN company?

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VPNs are very high margin products (50% of revenue is cashflow, the author points out). But they suffer from higher churn rates than most SaaS businesses. Switching costs are essentially free, it's hard to differentiate your product from someone else's in a meaningful way, discounts and promos abound, and achieving any kind of lock-in is next to impossible. Therefore, they advertise a lot. We here on HN probably get…

I see VPN companies sponsoring YouTube videos with a segment in the video itself, it's not targeted ads, it's a literal 2 min segment inside an edited video.

Re: Why is every podcast sponsored by a VPN company?

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post #27

VPNs are very high margin products (50% of revenue is cashflow, the author points out). But they suffer from higher churn rates than most SaaS businesses. Switching costs are essentially free, it's hard to differentiate your product from someone else's in a meaningful way, discounts and promos abound, and achieving any kind of lock-in is next to impossible. Therefore, they advertise a lot. We here on HN probably get…

I see VPN companies sponsoring YouTube videos with a segment in the video itself, it's not targeted ads, it's a literal 2 min segment inside an edited video.

They choose which videos and content creators to sponsor. They're more likely to sponsor Linus Tech Tips or MKBHD than Christen Dominique's "Clean Girl On The Go Makeup Tutorial".

That's still "targeting" certain demographics.

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