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Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers

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Re: Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers

#11

I use contactless to get money out of the ATM. It looks like they'd get my PIN in this method but they can't replicate the card, then, right?

Correct. I'm not familiar with the implementation details, but there's a handshake involved in the NFC tap that prevents it from being cloned using a "dumb" skimmer like this.

Re: Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers

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post #9

It's crazy how I never carry cash anymore. I can't even think of the last time I used an ATM. I often just leave the house with my phone and buy stuff with apple pay. Also how is magnetic strip still a thing? I thought this was replaced with chip and tap years ago...

I often just leave the house with my phone and buy stuff with apple pay.

I admire your uncomplicated, predictable life.

Sometimes I want to buy something from a guy with the ice cream cart at the park. Sometimes I need to tip a valet, a doorman, a hotel maid, or another service worker. Sometimes I want to buy Girl Scout cookies from the girl with the table on the corner. Sometimes I want to buy something from one of the 35 million Americans without a bank account. Sometimes tow truck drivers take cash only. Many of the late-night restaurants and food carts in my city are cash only.

Some day I'll go cash-free. But my life is not yet that simple.

Re: Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers

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post #11

I use contactless to get money out of the ATM. It looks like they'd get my PIN in this method but they can't replicate the card, then, right?

Correct. I'm not familiar with the implementation details, but there's a handshake involved in the NFC tap that prevents it from being cloned using a "dumb" skimmer like this.

One of my banks lets you use a QR code from the app. I haven't tried it yet to see how well it works.

Re: Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers

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post #9

It's crazy how I never carry cash anymore. I can't even think of the last time I used an ATM. I often just leave the house with my phone and buy stuff with apple pay. Also how is magnetic strip still a thing? I thought this was replaced with chip and tap years ago...

I often just leave the house with my phone and buy stuff with apple pay. I admire your uncomplicated, predictable life. Sometimes I want to buy something from a guy with the ice cream cart at the park. Sometimes I need to tip a valet, a doorman, a hotel maid, or another service worker. Sometimes I want to buy Girl Scout cookies from the girl with the table on the corner. Sometimes I want to buy something from one of…

I agree with a lot of the other things. But for this:

>Sometimes I want to buy Girl Scout cookies from the girl with the table on the corner

I have seen a lot of them carry Square dongles or accept Venmo payments. I guess they got tired of people telling them they do not have cash.

Re: Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers

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post #9

It's crazy how I never carry cash anymore. I can't even think of the last time I used an ATM. I often just leave the house with my phone and buy stuff with apple pay. Also how is magnetic strip still a thing? I thought this was replaced with chip and tap years ago...

Same, to be honest I feel like I haven't seen actual money in years. I'm always surprised how much it changes every time I get close enough or actually handle a bill.

To be fair though, after seeing physical Canadian money (got some bills and coins for my son), US money isn't nearly as cool.

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