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Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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post #129

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> at extremely high speeds Absolute speeds or relative to each other speeds?

Both, they have two sets of orbital paths at roughly 90 degrees to eachother (I'm just eyeballing it, it's probably not exactly 90). With more sets if you count the satellites in polar orbits. Though they could, if they needed to, only connect to the satellites flying at low relative speed.

There's no need for them to transfer data to satellites crossing in perpendicular directions to each other.

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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I thought that laser connectivity wasn't going to be available until V2 of the satellite went in to operation/orbit, and that's not going to happen until SpaceX gets Starship or the modified Falcon off the ground?

No, they've been on all v1.5 satellites that have been launching for a little over a year now.

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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I don't like Starlink. It increases light pollution, even in places without much human activity, which is a disaster for astronomers. Moreover, sending satellites to space is really inefficient. It wastes a lot of energy and pollutes a lot. To increase coverage, the amount of satellite they'll need will be more and more. And the skies will become more and more full of space junk (each satellite lives for 7 years). I…

> It increases light pollution

Not the conventional definition of light pollution. The conventional definintion of light pollution is sky glow, which is not caused by satellites.

Further, the satellites are around 6th magnitude, which is below human eye visible, but certainly still problematic to astronomers.

> which is a disaster for astronomers.

A "disaster" is overstating it. Take a look at this study for example https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/palomar-survey-instrument...

> "There is a small chance that we would miss an asteroid or another event hidden behind a satellite streak, but compared to the impact of weather, such as a cloudy sky, these are rather small effects for ZTF."

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> Moreover, sending satellites to space is really inefficient. It wastes a lot of energy and pollutes a lot.

Space launch is a miniscule portion of global emissions and there is no reasonable way it would seriously contribute to global emissions going forward. Further, as the fuel costs are such a small portion of launch costs, it would be easy enough to produce the fuel via direct carbon capture and have it still be economic, which is a path forward in the future.

> To increase coverage, the amount of satellite they'll need will be more and more.

The goal is never to serve high density areas. It's to serve areas that are functionally impossible to serve any other way without massive government subsidy.

> And the skies will become more and more full of space junk (each satellite lives for 7 years).

You've misheard. Those satellites don't stay in orbit very long as their orbits are so low. They'll deorbit within a few years, even if completely lost, but normally they'll de-orbit automatically at the end of life, producing no debris.

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

#195

I don't like Starlink. It increases light pollution, even in places without much human activity, which is a disaster for astronomers. Moreover, sending satellites to space is really inefficient. It wastes a lot of energy and pollutes a lot. To increase coverage, the amount of satellite they'll need will be more and more. And the skies will become more and more full of space junk (each satellite lives for 7 years). I…

> But of course, other solutions do not favour Elon Musk as much How a single man can be responsible to so much nuisance to the rest of humanity...

By the media turning him into a boogeyman and simultaneously a poster child.

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both, they have two sets of orbital paths at roughly 90 degrees to eachother (I'm just eyeballing it, it's probably not exactly 90). With more sets if you count the satellites in polar orbits. Though they could, if they needed to, only connect to the satellites flying at low relative speed.

There's no need for them to transfer data to satellites crossing in perpendicular directions to each other.

Right, that's what I was trying to say with my last sentence.

It would sometimes reduce latency if they're able to though.

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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According to their coverage map ( https://www.starlink.com/map ) there is no coverage in Africa nor Asia, unless I'm missing something obvious. Or if there are new continents I'm not aware of.

I wonder what's up with that dark spot in Western Australia.

Probably to remove interference with https://www.atnf.csiro.au/projects/askap/index.html

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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post #164

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Do you mean to say that the USAF can use devices that cause arbitrary interference on frequency bands that the country they're operating in hasn't reserved for such uses, and said countries tolerate that? Those countries' poor radio engineers...

The satellites are already there, like gps satellites are already there. I'm assuming they're transmitting whether or not people on the ground have connection or whether or not the government "approves" it.

MIMO antennas aren't transmitting in your direction unless you get their attention by transmitting in theirs. Also, they might be transmitting by default with barely-enough power, in a narrow band, in frequencies everyone generally agrees to not use for anything important; but once you establish a circuit with them, they could start transmitting in your particular direction with more power, in wider bandwidth, or in more-likely-to-be-reserved frequencies.
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