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Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by scoofy »

asimpletune wrote: post #11
dekhn wrote: post #5

There's no value proposition to vaccination at this point.

I thought it reduces the severity of the illness, does it not?

I listen to TWiV, and the prominent virologists there are suggesting that we don't actually know. In some of the latest episodes, they discuss frankly the fact that yearly boosters may or may not actually have any meaningful impact for normal healthy folks. They get into the details of why we know annual influenza boosters are effective, and that we really don't know whether COVID boosters will have the same effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Week_in_Virology

https://youtu.be/hwPhF7v4G4M?t=1240

https://youtu.be/jbPlhaHytm0?t=2449

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by slaw »

threeseed wrote: post #37
version_five wrote: post #4

Good for them for actually following science instead of the religion it had become. The problem of course is other countries that demand it, and no doubt will continue to demand Nth shots to appeal to their religious base, meaning people will who want to travel have to keep getting the shots anyway

Please be civil. Just because you disagree with a position doesn't mean it is not science and that public servants are making choices for some nefarious reason. COVID vaccines have unquestionably saved a lot of lives and will continue to do so in the future. The question is what their involvement will be in the future. A decision that will be made by the same people, with the same scientific rigour that it's always b…

Could you find any study where vaccines saved healthy adults under 50?

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by scoofy »

I listen to TWiV, and the prominent virologists there are suggesting that we don't actually know what to do. In some of the latest episodes, they discuss frankly the fact that yearly boosters may or may not actually have any meaningful impact for normal healthy folks. They get into the details of why we know annual influenza boosters are effective, and that we really don't know yet whether COVID boosters will have the same effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Week_in_Virology

https://youtu.be/hwPhF7v4G4M?t=1240

https://youtu.be/jbPlhaHytm0?t=2449

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by slig »

kyleblarson wrote: post #27
sterlind wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China's just rolled out an inhaled vaccine, and having vaccines that target the nasal passages specifically seem very promising for preventing infection. If I could, I'd get that vaccine.

China is certainly trustworthy on this topic.

Their official death count number is certainly interesting, to say the least.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by dekhn »

ribosometronome wrote: post #47
dekhn wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The effects are extremely small for variants that arose recently. If there is a new round of vaccines that work on current and future variants, it would make more sense to get vaccinated.

There is a new round of vaccines that work on BA5, the dominant variant as of August in the US.

(yes; this is recent news; everything I'm describing above is about the previous round of viruses. The new vaccines are in only limited availabiltiy right now)

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by nope96 »

flyingcircus3 wrote: post #57
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #14

Another new account posting what will surely turn into a very civil thread.

It's been fascinating for the last couple of years to see how these daily armchair epidemiologist threads have transitioned from largely in support of vaccines to now largely against them. It seems there is some natural filtering at play. People looking for rational informed discussion about covid have realized it's no longer on HN, so they just don't participate anymore. Meanwhile,those who think this is all a giant…

Adversaries of the west want us to be unvaccinated and sick. Knowing what we know about "troll farms", I would not be surprised if there is an effort by some states to discredit the vaccine on English speaking forums.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by belltaco »

rossdavidh wrote: post #10

Bit by bit, it is becoming the new influenza. Not saying we're there yet, but that's clearly where we're headed. Now, influenza kills lots of people; in 2018 over 60,000 people were killed by influenza in the USA alone. But we don't have border closing or "show your papers" or all the rest for influenza, and we're not going to.

>But we don't have border closing or "show your papers" or all the rest for influenza, and we're not going to.

We do have "show your papers" for influenza. For example: https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-b-chapter-...

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by ribosometronome »

dekhn wrote: post #65
ribosometronome wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a new round of vaccines that work on BA5, the dominant variant as of August in the US.

(yes; this is recent news; everything I'm describing above is about the previous round of viruses. The new vaccines are in only limited availabiltiy right now)

Oh. My bad. I thought you said "There's no value proposition to vaccination at this point."

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by mrtesthah »

AnonCoward42 wrote: post #53
mrtesthah wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The narrative of anti-vaxxers has flip-flopped so often that it's pretty unclear what they think vaccines are actually doing.

I am from Germany and I am - like 95% or so of my fellow Germans - vaccinated myself, so what are you talking about?

No post body was provided.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by belltaco »

xyzzy123 wrote: post #9
saagarjha wrote: post #8

> We expect that many people will be infected with covid-19 during autumn and winter. Ah yes, the “guess we might as well give up” strategy.

Which covid vaccine can I take to prevent being infected?

The mRNA vaccines confer good but not perfect protection against infection for a few months after taking them.
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