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Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by wvenable »

mywittyname wrote: post #30
dekhn wrote: post #5

There's no value proposition to vaccination at this point.

To each their own, but I'll happily pay the $10 or so to reduce the likelihood of getting sick over the next few months. I hate being sick so much. I would be worth it even if it only prevented a mild case of sniffles.

I got COVID just a few months ago and I've had a worse flu but it's definitely comparable. The worst of it was over in a few days but the general feeling of sickness stayed for the next 3 weeks. I'll happily take anything to avoid that again.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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lifeformed wrote: post #33
Kranar wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2018 was an exceptionally bad year for influenza. Typically influenza deaths in the U.S. are between 20-30k. COVID deaths in the U.S. over a two year period amounted to over 1 million.

And that's with tons of precautions, whereas with the flu society doesn't take the kinds of mitigations we take with COVID.

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Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by AnonCoward42 »

mrtesthah wrote: post #48
AnonCoward42 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The narrative around the vaccine flip-flopped so often that it is pretty unclear what it is actually doing. Our health minister (Karl Lauterbach/Germany) actually said that it accelerates symptoms, so they stay at home earlier than those without. It's just so versatile it does everything and the opposite at this point.

The narrative of anti-vaxxers has flip-flopped so often that it's pretty unclear what they think vaccines are actually doing.

I am from Germany and I am - like 95% or so of my fellow Germans - vaccinated myself, so what are you talking about?

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by Llamamoe »

version_five wrote: post #4

Good for them for actually following science instead of the religion it had become. The problem of course is other countries that demand it, and no doubt will continue to demand Nth shots to appeal to their religious base, meaning people will who want to travel have to keep getting the shots anyway

Honestly, the death toll of COVID is immense, and the rates of Long COVID are several times that. Even in people who don't develop it, we're finding blood clots and dramatically increased cardiovascular risk in young, healthy, asymptomatic sufferers.

At this rate, several years from now half the population is going to be either disabled or substantially less able than before.

Dismissing COVID as you are doing is a naive and straight up stupid luxury of a young, healthy person buying into the narrative spun by others who'd rather have peace of mind and avoid inconvenience than take this threat seriously.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by dekhn »

lowdest wrote: post #38
dekhn wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The effects are extremely small for variants that arose recently. If there is a new round of vaccines that work on current and future variants, it would make more sense to get vaccinated.

Like the Omicron booster that has limited availability?

I believe those were approved a couple months ago and become available very recently. I was expecting Denmark to resume once that was available (they actually shut down the vaccine problem back in the spring with the plan to restart in the fall with the new booster).

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by flyingcircus3 »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #14

Another new account posting what will surely turn into a very civil thread.

It's been fascinating for the last couple of years to see how these daily armchair epidemiologist threads have transitioned from largely in support of vaccines to now largely against them.

It seems there is some natural filtering at play. People looking for rational informed discussion about covid have realized it's no longer on HN, so they just don't participate anymore. Meanwhile,those who think this is all a giant conspiracy have found fellow travellers with bottomless cynicism, and those people now dominate these threads.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by dekhn »

mrtesthah wrote: post #36
dekhn wrote: post #5

There's no value proposition to vaccination at this point.

That's blatantly and obviously false, especially with the variant specific booster. Perhaps you think the risk of myocarditis is too great? You'd be wrong. https://newsroom.heart.org/news/myocarditis-risk-significant...

Note: I'm a scientist and work with/talk to medical researchers at top institutions (UCSF) all the time about viruses, vaccines, and other health areas. My beliefs are a synthesis of what I hear from experts, and my own reading and thinking. I'm not overtly concerned by myocarditis risk - I just see this as reasonable and straightforward decisionmaking based on the data that is available and the unknown details that aren't.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by wvenable »

rsynnott wrote: post #56

The title is a little misleading; they're not currently offering a second booster. They're presumably still doing primary vaccination, and the language implies they may offer a booster later.

The reasoning provided on the page is that people under 50 are mostly vaccinated and/or have had COVID already.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by antasvara »

Kranar wrote: post #28
rossdavidh wrote: post #10

Bit by bit, it is becoming the new influenza. Not saying we're there yet, but that's clearly where we're headed. Now, influenza kills lots of people; in 2018 over 60,000 people were killed by influenza in the USA alone. But we don't have border closing or "show your papers" or all the rest for influenza, and we're not going to.

2018 was an exceptionally bad year for influenza. Typically influenza deaths in the U.S. are between 20-30k. COVID deaths in the U.S. over a two year period amounted to over 1 million.

I think the commenter you're responding to was indicating that we're moving towards COVID as the new influenza, not that we're there yet.

Case numbers and deaths seem to be plateauing at a pretty low rate, especially considering the relaxed restrictions these numbers are occurring under. It seems reasonable to think that we won't suddenly see a more dangerous strain of this particular virus, or that vaccines will lose a significant amount of effectiveness.

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