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Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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I had a buddy [1] that worked in the kitchen at Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station for a few seasons in 2012-2014. From what he told me: The internet works at certain times of the day at different bandwidths depending on the satellite. I think at that time there was 3 in orbit, and one of them was a retired Navy sat that had like dial-up speed. Also everything that goes to the station stays there so the vinyl collecti…

> Also everything that goes to the station stays there What's the reasoning behind that? Presumably people bring back clothes and other personal affects right?

Most things are probably cheaper to replace than to bring back from the most remote area on Earth, and far cheaper to leave for someone else to use than make them bring their own. If unwanted, it’s trash - too expensive to move when there’s presumably an acceptable landfill right there (may sound environmentally unfriendly, but hauling trash back is likely worse).

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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That's rumour, not a citation. Maybe I'm wrong and directed energy weapons can destroy thousands of satellites in LEO, but it's never been demonstrated by any nation.

It's a citation that they have them, which is all I claimed definitively. If I could cite the part of the statement after "probably", there wouldn't be a "probably" there. I would not call it rumors. If you'd like a more authoritative citation, here is a DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency, i.e. US military) report cited in the article I cited above : https://www.dia.mil/Portals/110/Documents/News/Military_Powe...

Go read page 24. It doesn’t say what you are claiming.

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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> with very little to show for Global internet coverage would be amazing, and definitely something I and many others would consider worth it. Not just for people to browse Twitter/TikTok/social media, but for access to things like Wikipedia and various other knowledge-bases, and communication protocols.

The world's poor are ahead of us in this realm. Lagos will clock 100M people by the end of the century. Megalopolis are only getting bigger. Like luxury EVs , starlink is aimed at the particular preferences of the RV crowd and the yacht crowd. Improving the quality of life of the avg. consumer is never the goal. The goal is to have rich people get excited about some luxury product so that they immediately log on thei…

Tell that to the Hoh tribe, and many similar, who had zero data connectivity until Starlink connected the tribe to the world for just $150/mo.

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

#155
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Man, I love when sci-fi becomes reality. It's the cool things that get me excited for some parts of the future, and this is exactly that.

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To quote a very wise cartoon: Why not both?

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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It's a citation that they have them, which is all I claimed definitively. If I could cite the part of the statement after "probably", there wouldn't be a "probably" there. I would not call it rumors. If you'd like a more authoritative citation, here is a DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency, i.e. US military) report cited in the article I cited above : https://www.dia.mil/Portals/110/Documents/News/Military_Powe...

Go read page 24. It doesn’t say what you are claiming.

Page 24 definitely doesn't, it's about Russia. Page 17 on the other hand

> During the past two decades, Chinese defense research has proposed the development of several reversible and nonreversible counterspace DEWs for reversible dazzling of electro-optical sensors and even potentially destroying satellite components. China has multiple ground-based laser weapons of varying power levels to disrupt, degrade, or damage satellites that include a current limited capability to employ laser systems against satellite sensors. By the mid- to late-2020s, China may field higher power systems that extend the threat to the structures of nonoptical satellites.

The discussion of current capabilities is primarily about optical satellites (though it can be read to include other components), but it probably applies to giant sensitive phased array antennas too.

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

#157

One thing that may be related to Starlink, or not - it happened to me already twice that I was just randomly gazing at stars and noticed long streak of satellites in a row. One around last christmas and one few weeks ago. In places cca 1500km apart in Europe. First one the satellites were evenly spaced, sometimes 1-2 were 'missing' and I could see between gap in the clouds maybe 7-8 at the same time. Altogether maybe…

Yes those must have been Starlink's. I was in awe the first time I saw that string of lights. And if you wait a bit, they come around again! They are in a low orbit and very fast relative to earth because of that.

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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It doesn't seem like our obsession with space caused any difficulty in printing RNA. Progress is not a quantity, you can't subtract from over here and add it over there by whim. Humans are also not born into service to their fellow humans, so there is no ethical mechanism to even dictate this. Meanwhile, space networks have enabled global communications, global rescue, and global positioning. All exceptionally import…

Space programs have:

Improved global shipping (reduced costs, increased safety, etc). Improve global crop yields with understanding planting times, harvest times, etc. Reduced geopolitical tensions (way less secrets, no more dangerous airplane overflights, ability to monitor compliance remotely). Enabled safer air travel (weather satellites, ADS-B). Understand global warming (using monitoring satellites). Made archeological discoveries. Helped fight poaching in Africa.

These are a few of the outcomes I know off the top of my head. But yes, what have aerospace programs done for anyone?

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

#159
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How about providing free internet to China and Russia, to give the people there proper information without government oversight?

You know both Russia and China are perfectly capable of targeting and destroying satellites, yes?

China, I'm not so worried about. At this point though, Putin doesn't have a lot to lose other than his head.

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

#160

I don't like Starlink. It increases light pollution, even in places without much human activity, which is a disaster for astronomers. Moreover, sending satellites to space is really inefficient. It wastes a lot of energy and pollutes a lot. To increase coverage, the amount of satellite they'll need will be more and more. And the skies will become more and more full of space junk (each satellite lives for 7 years). I…

SX is actively solving the light pollution problem.

A few satellites orbiting use far fewer materials to provide coverage of the entire planet than doing so terrestrially would.

As Starlink satellites age out they de-orbit. No space junk.

You’re welcome to propose & implement better solutions. Until then, this is the very best humans can do to lift all of humanity with minimal environmental impact.

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