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Re: Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many people quitting?

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Post by bufferoverflow »

raverbashing wrote: post #253
nmarinov wrote: post #39

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Link to the wedding business comment - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32740708

lol that's a delightful story Sounds like the archetype of "being a manager means being angry at people. business knowledge optional"

It also sounds like an untrue story. You can find photo/video editors all over the internet. As a photographer I'm spammed by the Chinese ones every week. Looking at their portfolios, they aren't even bad (though I don't know how real their portfolios are).

Re: Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many people quitting?

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Post by CamperBob2 »

ipaddr wrote: post #149
CamperBob2 wrote: post #134

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On this site many people can read scientific studies. Having a medical degree means you can apply to practice medicine for money. Forming opinions based on fact never required one.

You can read studies and form opinions all you want. I do the same. But the post I replied to offered unsolicited medical advice that blatantly contradicts the currently-available information from public health authorities. ("It would be one thing if the covid vaccine actually worked well, but it doesn't. It kind of works, but not especially well. Even worse is people who actually got covid, yet they want them to get a vaccine, which is rather pointless for them.")

When you start to post bullshit online, that's when people -- very legitimately -- may choose to challenge your credentials. In fact, people should challenge your credentials in such cases. It doesn't happen anywhere near often enough, and that's a problem.

If you disagree, then you're part of the same problem. Reconsider your position.

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Post by pryelluw »

swyx wrote: post #375
pryelluw wrote: post #219

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Yes, but it’s not what I want to do with my life. The journey is the destination.

i mean, 2m a year passive income, that sounds like a pretty good space to be in. it doesnt seem like you have any particular loyalty to it and its closed so... what was the business? you dont have to name it, im just curious economics-wise what let this business exist on autopilot

It wasn’t passive income. The business was simple enough and he had managed to hire good people. It would run by itself pretty much. It wasn’t a typical startup. Just a small business that sold a software as a service.

The product revolved around making sales easier. The owner was a long time sales person.

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Post by heavyset_go »

tdeck wrote: post #195
heavyset_go wrote: post #34

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It's sometimes illegal for teachers to even go on strike. My area had an incident where striking teachers were arrested and taken to jail.

Sometimes they win demands even when the strike is illegal. The 2018 West Virginia teacher's strike turned into a wildcat (unauthorized) strike but that didn't stop them from winning a 5% pay raise. It does depend a lot on community support and sympathy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_West_Virginia_teachers%...

Some states it's just illegal for teachers to strike at all, wildcat or not, or even to organize with unions.

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Post by heavyset_go »

wongarsu wrote: post #221
heavyset_go wrote: post #34

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It's sometimes illegal for teachers to even go on strike. My area had an incident where striking teachers were arrested and taken to jail.

In jail they won't come to work either. That sounds more like a scare tactic

It's less of a scare tactic and more of a way to punish and prevent teachers from organizing in the first place.

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Post by egberts1 »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #442
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if and when the design team of Google hiring are not made up of HR personnel, it could be construed as a violation of Federal labor law. It becomes a violation if the hiring (non-HR) team are privy to sensitive info of applicants. and if HR design team and hiring (non-HR) team are one and the same playing fast and loose with privilege info, many lawyers will be all over this. Of course, I am unwilling to find out bec…

I think you are grossly misinformed. >when the design team of Google hiring are not made up of HR personnel, it could be construed as a violation of Federal labor law. There is nothing illegal about the design team participating in or even running the hiring process. >HR design team and hiring (non-HR) team are one and the same playing fast and loose with privilege info, many lawyers will be all over this. There is n…

That was on the advice of my lawyer.

You, however, probably need to consult your legal team.

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Post by heavyset_go »

robertlagrant wrote: post #339
EFreethought wrote: post #308

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I am not in nursing, but from what I have seen in corporate America: even when there is a lot of churn, bad managers always think everybody else is the problem.

Of course. But they don't assess themselves :)

In my experience, management tends to protect themselves and go up to bat for each other, especially when things can be blamed on their subordinates.

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Post by a-dub »

ido wrote: post #327
a-dub wrote: post #296

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i thought there was an industrywide videogame crash in the early 80s that was blamed on the atari consoles being too open. (everyone was making cartridges, even companies like ralston-purina, quality fell under the flooded market and consumers gave up). my understanding is that this gave rise to nintendo's tight control over developer licensees while atari was sold off and pivoted to home computers (specifically the…

The story is more complex than that, Atari split in 2 (the games company and the consumer electronics company) and neither really exist anymore (and haven't for a long time now). But basically yes - they never replicated the success of the VCS and arcades stopped being a major part of the industry in the 90s. All of Atari's biggest hits were in the 70s and (early) 80s.

it's really complex, and quite interesting!

"Video game crash of 1983 - Wikipedia" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983

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Post by ethbr0 »

scarface74 wrote: post #421
ethbr0 wrote: post #414

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As the product of a reproductive therapy that certain people at one time would have banned, I can sympathize. To me the big difference is whether they're "I should not be vaccinated" or "Everyone should not be vaccinated." The former doesn't always mean belief in the latter. So I look at someone being unvaccinated more like choosing to wear a spinning propeller hat to work every day... it's weird, and it makes me jud…

As a health care professional, you choosing to be anti-vaxxer tells me a lot about your judgment in the field I’m seeking your expert advice and it probably means that you don’t care about coming to work with Covid and getting other people sick. If you’re an anti vaxxer coworker, whatever. Your judgment about the vaccine doesn’t affect their ability to write good code. But if they were an Oracle fan…

That's a lot of assumptions about a person...

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Post by SideQuark »

clavalle wrote: post #394
ChrisLomont wrote: post #309

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>get rid of any engineer and the minimum impact is 3-6 months code and culture familiarisation On a big project, say 100 devs over 3 years, 6 man months is 1/600th of the work, so a single person is replaceable and it's not even noise. If the replacement takes 6 months to get up to speed the replacement is certainly not a very good developer, even on the biggest projects. At that size, there's lots of small side proj…

>If the replacement takes 6 months to get up to speed the replacement is certainly not a very good developer I think you're mistaking 'becoming a contributing member of the team' for 'contributes at the level of the developer that left'.

Often the person leaving has not been that good of a contributor due to wanting to leave, while a replacement is new and likely more inclined to work hard.

On a big team, people fit a bell curve, and most likely those leaving are not going to cause much harm (otherwise no big project would get done - all have people coming and going over the lifespan of the codebase).

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