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Almost like building a business around “engagement” is a model that leads to a death spiral. Social media sites are basically giant MLM schemes that sell the idea that become real companies before the scheme runs out.

ahhh,,... I would say billions in revenue makes it anything but. A short lived idea, maybe, a novelty, maybe

Death spiral = short lived

MLMs make billions, but they are still MLMs.

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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This is a dishonest answer. Tumblr died because it’s niche was adult content. Banning your niche is choosing to fail.

It doesn't seem dishonest to me; chasing those ad dollars are what led to the supremely stupid decision of banning one of their core niches.

We are talking about platforms where the ads themselves caused users to leave. This is not what happened with Tumblr and it is not a good faith view to say so.

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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Users of FB have migrated to Instagram and WhatsApp (all owned by Meta) ... FB is now for old people / those who don't like new tech.

Instagram and Facebook don't have the functionality that Facebook has, that's the problem. Instagram is for photo sharing. Hell, it's not even for that... it's a dating app for women, that doesn't advertise itself as a dating app for women. WhatsApp is just another telephone and messaging app, there's not much special about it as far as I can tell. It's ICQ on a smartphone and I guess, maybe, a better interface. I wa…

WhatsApp is huge in some countries (even bigger than some telecom companies in the number of users it has).

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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If you use FB on a computer instead of a phone, the FB Purity browser extension will let you block whatever you like. I haven't seen an ad or suggested post in years. I came here because today FB started putting posts from the groups I belong to in my feed, even though I had notifications off for all of them. So I was able to filter them back out by blocking posts containing the full name of each group (you can block by any string), so my feed is back to only posts from my friends.

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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I don't understand your hesitation to share your photos (or at least, not based on that criteria). "[wouldn't] be welcome"? By whom? Facebook? Or your friends? Would that imply they'd rather see ads and shared crap content than original content? IMO Facebook needs an "original content only" setting. I block every single page that some idiot shares, but I'm not sure how much it helps. I will literally never want to se…

I totally get what he says. If your feed no longer feels like it's your feed, more like some bazar on your phone, than why post anything private?

Exactly this, it's gone from a something like a yahoo listserve with your friends to nextdoor with the whole world. And this repositioning happened completely behind the scenes seemingly as a side effect of pushing monetization too hard.

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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--that coupled with inability to realize that blasting ads at people doesnt make your product look better, it makes your product a source of frustration, and a daily/hourly annoyance, your product is associated with bad, and is avoided. the answer to the problem includes the concept of less is more.

Not really since no one’s cares about the annoyances-if they did no company would run ads but the exact opposite is true

>no one cares about the annoyances

Then why is adblocking so popular?

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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Discord has completely displaced the need for other social media in my experience. And they get hundreds of dollars per year from me. If this isn’t a winning model, I don’t know what is.

Discord is completely useless for socializing with anyone who isn't in the IT industry. My mom, for instance, is NOT going to use Discord, but I can get her to use Facebook Messenger.

Not just older folks, young people who don't game regularly don't bother to check it either. The UI makes it quite hard to find people on there, nobody uses real names, profile pictures are random game/anime characters...

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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Nope, even with items like fridges it's intentional. Most people have not bought a fridge in the last month. Most people will not buy one in the next month. Taking your estimated 99%, that leaves 1% who just bought a fridge but it doesn't work, or didn't fit their room, or for whatever other reason they've sent it for a refund... and are about to want a fridge again! 1% might sound low, but if you look at the group o…

But if I've bought a fridge from Amazon , and it doesn't work, surely the first thing I'm going to do is try to return it to Amazon ? Most people, after all, don't really have the spare money to buy two fridges at once, so they're going to want their money back from the first one before they buy the second. Once they've started the return process, then Amazon can start recommending new fridges to them. Again: this is…

I'd guess fridges are annoying enough to be without one that many people who can afford, either through having cash or access to a credit card, would indeed be willing to pay for the second fridge while waiting a few days for the first fridge to ship back and be processed before they get the refund.

Or maybe by the time they've fully made up their mind to return the fridge, it's often after they've first decided there is indeed a better fridge out there, and already chosen where to buy it in the day or two before they start a return. In which case the time to advertise to them would be the window after purchase and before initiating a return.

Maybe... etc.

I don't know for sure, having neither worked at Amazon nor tried to market fridges. But I have seen many examples of this sort of retargeting of people who've just bought something with ads of the same type of thing, where general intuition, even that of experienced marketers yet alone normal shoppers, made it seem like a dumb idea and yet the data actually did prove it was a great use of advertising.

So maybe your gut instinct is better than the ad conversion predictions Amazon's code is making, with all their data. But I'd be surprised.

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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I'm seeing a few posts here that basically they have to do this because it's an ad service, it's for shareholders, etc. When are we going to blame Zuck and his unique brand of dishonesty and lying to everyone? They've misled their own investors and advertisers, at what point do we stop saying "with anyone else at the helm it would be the same" and recognize his character issues?
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