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Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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How about providing free internet to China and Russia, to give the people there proper information without government oversight?

How about getting Tesla banned from China and possibly starting an orbital war that triggers the Kessler syndrome?

What would be banned are the dishes. China doesn’t need to send a missile to LEO (which would be unnecessarily costly for them).

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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Does this mean they've figured out satellite-to-satellite data transfer?

This is the first mention of it working that I've seen. I wonder if it's a limited deployment for Antarctica or the beginning of a large rollout.

That's basically what I'm wondering about. Is this an unfortunate headline, or are we really there already?

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd imagine the latency and per-installation cost is quite high.

It looks like it operates at 35,000 km and relays the signal between the base and Australia. The ping time seems to average a hair under 250ms. https://www.satellite-calculations.com/Satellite/170HourList... http://bhs.smokeping.ovh.net/smokeping?target=APAC.AS7474-1 Starlink satellites are mostly in the 550km elevation range. Average pings seem to be in the 50ms range, but this would be single satellite performance.…

> It looks like it operates at 35,000 km and relays the signal between the base and Australia. The ping time seems to average a hair under 250ms.

That would be impressive, as that would be 140,000km in 250ms, or about twice the speed of light

Most satellite IP I use starts at about 650ms

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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How about providing free internet to China and Russia, to give the people there proper information without government oversight?

Because you can't give free internet to China or Russia to give people proper information without government oversight. It's not going to happen without the co-operation of these governments who will actively prevent you from doing that. That's basically why.

That's not even mentioning the sanctions on Western technology entering Russia at the moment.

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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How about providing free internet to China and Russia, to give the people there proper information without government oversight?

You think the USG that funded SpaceX/Starlink isn't going to have control over it...? While Starlink was marketed as a boon to rural democratic internet access, those promises have been walked back and its pretty clear that it the limited bandwidth is primarily intended to increase the Pentagon/ICs communications capabilities in the field, much like the Internet itself. The USG did not fund a swarm of satellites so t…

Why wouldn't the Pentagon want to blanket China with US propaganda?

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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post #7

How about providing free internet to China and Russia, to give the people there proper information without government oversight?

How about getting Tesla banned from China and possibly starting an orbital war that triggers the Kessler syndrome?

Nobody is going to disclose & use anti-satellite technology over internet censorship. Hell, China isn't even aiming for bulletproof terrestrial censorship - they are happy with "good enough".

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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According to its Wikipedia entry, McMurdo Station had a 20Mbit/s satellite link so far. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMurdo_Station#Communications

I had a buddy [1] that worked in the kitchen at Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station for a few seasons in 2012-2014. From what he told me: The internet works at certain times of the day at different bandwidths depending on the satellite. I think at that time there was 3 in orbit, and one of them was a retired Navy sat that had like dial-up speed.

Also everything that goes to the station stays there so the vinyl collection is amazing, and they have a huge Betamax / VHS library and most importantly they have /The Thing/ on Betamax.

[1] https://www.portlandmercury.com/Theater/2012/07/26/6564600/m...

Edit: Here's the satellite schedule for this week, https://www.usap.gov/technology/documents/SPSAT%2020220915.p... and you can sign up for a listserv of updates here: https://www.usap.gov/technology/1935/

These are the available birds in orbit for Antarctica:

Broadband: South Pole TDRSS Relay (SPTR) Satellite

Broadband: Defense Satellite Communications System (DSCS)

Broadband: Skynet Satellite Communications System

Narrowband: Iridium Multi-Channel System (IMCS)

Re: Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its space laser network

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know both Russia and China are perfectly capable of targeting and destroying satellites, yes?

Neither could destroy SpaceX satellites as fast as they can be launched. No State can. The issue would be whether they could cause enough damage to make the orbital plane (temporarily) unusable.

The Starlink orbit is low enough that it would only be unusable for a year or so I'd imagine. Small debris will drop out quite fast.
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