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The B-52 was designed in a hotel room over one weekend

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Re: The B-52 was designed in a hotel room over one weekend

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Out of the loop, exactly why does the USAF still fly this?

Is it really a better alternative to putting some bomb bay doors on a modern Boeing?

Without dismissing the entire field of aircraft design... the mind is definitely attracted to the concept of buzzsawing some doors onto the bottom of civilian airliner.

Re: The B-52 was designed in a hotel room over one weekend

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The first prototype of the B-52 may have been designed in a weekend. The B-52 of today was iteratively designed over decades and the current H models are entirely different planes than earlier models (although structurally very close to the G model). Another HN commenter mentioned GPS being designed over a holiday. But we spent years and years in the military debugging GPS and making it functional. Claiming that some…

It's honestly a fantastic case for incremental improvements over time. There's practically no single part on a modern B-52 that's original to the 1960s since everything has been overhauled and modernized decade by decade. Every attempt to replace it has been (or will be) retired before its EOL.

Platonic question: is it still a B-52 then? cf. the Ship of Theseus

Re: The B-52 was designed in a hotel room over one weekend

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The first prototype of the B-52 may have been designed in a weekend. The B-52 of today was iteratively designed over decades and the current H models are entirely different planes than earlier models (although structurally very close to the G model). Another HN commenter mentioned GPS being designed over a holiday. But we spent years and years in the military debugging GPS and making it functional. Claiming that some…

One of my favourite (probably misquotes) is "I wrote FAT on an airplane!" from Bill Gates.

that i would believe

Re: The B-52 was designed in a hotel room over one weekend

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I was in the Air Force in early 90s, and we chuckled at one guy in training who got assigned to B-52 maintenance. "Ha that old thing? How long will that job last?"

His grandson will be saying the same thing.

In a post appocalyptic world great-great-grandsons of B-52 pilots will inherit those planes, the same airframes their ancestors flew in the 50s.

Impressive service life time, especially that since then nobody came up with something better then the B-52.

Re: The B-52 was designed in a hotel room over one weekend

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post #31

Out of the loop, exactly why does the USAF still fly this? Is it really a better alternative to putting some bomb bay doors on a modern Boeing? Without dismissing the entire field of aircraft design... the mind is definitely attracted to the concept of buzzsawing some doors onto the bottom of civilian airliner.

>Is it really a better alternative to putting some bomb bay doors on a modern Boeing?

yes

Re: The B-52 was designed in a hotel room over one weekend

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The first prototype of the B-52 may have been designed in a weekend. The B-52 of today was iteratively designed over decades and the current H models are entirely different planes than earlier models (although structurally very close to the G model). Another HN commenter mentioned GPS being designed over a holiday. But we spent years and years in the military debugging GPS and making it functional. Claiming that some…

It's honestly a fantastic case for incremental improvements over time. There's practically no single part on a modern B-52 that's original to the 1960s since everything has been overhauled and modernized decade by decade. Every attempt to replace it has been (or will be) retired before its EOL.

How long have the B-52 jet engines had monocrystalline fan blades? That must have an enormous impact on efficiency and performance. They became available in the late 60s.

https://www.americanscientist.org/article/each-blade-a-singl...

Re: The B-52 was designed in a hotel room over one weekend

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If every thing except the overall form of the fuselage is changed it is a new plane.

Only if the new plane is not Tu-144 or Buran. Then it's not a new plane, but a stolen one. /s

Buran was made to look like Shuttle (despite opposition of engineers on the project), but was completely local design.

Re: The B-52 was designed in a hotel room over one weekend

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Out of the loop, exactly why does the USAF still fly this? Is it really a better alternative to putting some bomb bay doors on a modern Boeing? Without dismissing the entire field of aircraft design... the mind is definitely attracted to the concept of buzzsawing some doors onto the bottom of civilian airliner.

Boeing already make a civilian airliner with bomb bays [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_P-8_Poseidon

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