It's not surprising that all the porn websites the author mentions have a similar design; they're all owned and run by the same company, Mindgeek.
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
It doesn't matter how you measure engagement though, in the end all ad-supported sites want to maximize it.
Why would they? Imagine you are an organization to create something, and you ... do that, while having ads, (with additional other supports). E.g. I don't think phoronix.com is optimized for engagement. Why can't Michael (phoronix guy) do the articles because it is his job, and not because he want to maximize the ads?
Because ads are what's paying him to do his job.
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#33How is the pornhub interface different from youtube‘s?
Clickbait vs masturbate.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
It doesn't matter how you measure engagement though, in the end all ad-supported sites want to maximize it.
Why would they? Imagine you are an organization to create something, and you ... do that, while having ads, (with additional other supports). E.g. I don't think phoronix.com is optimized for engagement. Why can't Michael (phoronix guy) do the articles because it is his job, and not because he want to maximize the ads?
Phoronix is very much optimized for people staying on the site (most links in articles will go to phoronix.com) as well as for maximizing ad views (articles split into many short pages). Not really a fan of either but it's not like there are many sites for Linux benchmarks and harware news to choose from.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
> People in thumbnails make weird facial expressions for different reasons I’ve seen porn videos with a YT-style thumbnail (annoying person making a dumb face in front of whatever is actually interesting), but so far they are very rare.
That would seem to suggest that the obnoxious YT-style thumbnails are mainly driven by children. (Or, at least, with strictly adult-only audiences they don't appear.)
Are you assuming that children don't browse porn sites?
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#36It's not surprising that all the porn websites the author mentions have a similar design; they're all owned and run by the same company, Mindgeek.
Not? Some belong to a French guy in Czechia IIRC.
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#37Interesting how, in attempt to make the article on this topic more SFW, they decided to replace thumbs of actual porn with hand-painted representations..
It's Art!
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
It doesn't matter how you measure engagement though, in the end all ad-supported sites want to maximize it.
Why would they? Imagine you are an organization to create something, and you ... do that, while having ads, (with additional other supports). E.g. I don't think phoronix.com is optimized for engagement. Why can't Michael (phoronix guy) do the articles because it is his job, and not because he want to maximize the ads?
You can have a compromise. There is a minimum number of $$$ you need to stay in business. The less ads you have in total, the more supply and demand allows you to charge. Most sites though are not at the point anyone will pay them more than someone else, so if you show less ads you won't be able to charge more for the few you show. (the super bowl famously can charge very high rates, but for the average web site you are competing with every other website and so less space isn't significant to all customers)
I strongly believe that most web sites are leaving a lot of money on the table by not having their ads in-house. It will be more work (and cost) in the short run, but a good ad salesman can find those customers who really want to target the people reading your website in ways algorithms do not. The big automakers and fast food don't care about targeting - nearly everyone is a potential customer so they can get everyone. Most care about targeting and so by selling direct you ensure that their ads never go to someone who won't buy anyway because of the algorithm.
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#39The byline says July 2022, but the errata says “This article was updated with corrections on August 13, 2019”… hmmm
Also possibly NSFW (illustrations of the porn sites).
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would they? Imagine you are an organization to create something, and you ... do that, while having ads, (with additional other supports). E.g. I don't think phoronix.com is optimized for engagement. Why can't Michael (phoronix guy) do the articles because it is his job, and not because he want to maximize the ads?
Because ads are what's paying him to do his job.
and because it's almost trivial to run a subscriber supported site out of business
3 steps:
1 - fund high quality, totally free content, great UI, minimal ads
2 - poach customers from subscriber sites, wait them out. will take about a year. they'll go broke.
3 - start to optimize for "engagement" (ad views). profit.