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Ask HN: Cloud certifications and job prospects. Is there a real connection?

#1
As I'm getting a bit old (mid 40s) I'm thinking about getting an AWS certification in order to bump up my employability and better my standing in job market.

I'm wondering though if there's any tangible connection between the two. What has been your experience with these and similar certifications?

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#2
As a hiring manager, the certs are ok, but the experience is what matters.

I always ask engineers this "What do you think about the AWS documentation?" If you've had to actually parse through it yourself to learn how to get something working, that's more valuable.

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As a hiring manager, the certs are ok, but the experience is what matters. I always ask engineers this "What do you think about the AWS documentation?" If you've had to actually parse through it yourself to learn how to get something working, that's more valuable.

>What do you think about the AWS documentation?

Is "I only ever get things done by reading third-part AWS documentation" a valid answer in your book? :c)

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#6
I very positively favor engineers who took AWS certifications.

Even the most basic Solutions Associate means I can trust that you at least know what I mean when I say 'SQS', 'KMS' and 'ECS'.

I prefer every engineer at least have foundational knowledge of AWS. We use IaC to template out everything and put 'training wheels' on our infra, meaning engineers might not spend a ton of time in AWS, the real benefit is in communication. Especially since I want engineers to feel confident to use our IaC to build solutions that scale and discuss how it could better suit the engineering teams needs, rather than just having an 'OPs team' drive application decisions.

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#8
It really depends on where you want to work. If you want to work at a large organization, I really recommend it. Thing big blue and such. A lot of their government and f-500 contracts are with entities that have contracts which state, "all our employees/contractors are certified."

I have been told by recruiters they can easily double most people's salary, this is for AZ-204/400 certs.

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#9
post #6

I very positively favor engineers who took AWS certifications. Even the most basic Solutions Associate means I can trust that you at least know what I mean when I say 'SQS', 'KMS' and 'ECS'. I prefer every engineer at least have foundational knowledge of AWS. We use IaC to template out everything and put 'training wheels' on our infra, meaning engineers might not spend a ton of time in AWS, the real benefit is in com…

I know AWS is the most used cloud platform among the many out there. But wouldn't you be missing on really talented people that have only worked on Azure or Google Cloud for say 10 years? Or is it the expectation that any OPs engineer should know the fundamentals of all the big players?

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#10

Honestly if I see a cert I run the other direction. To me it speaks to the type of person, I would much rather see open source or just experience

That's frankly a fascinating response.

I have certs because my boss asked me to get them, as they play a part in his business' ability to obtain partner status with the various cloud vendors.

It is confusing to me that this chain of events would lead you to dismiss me out of hand, or make value judgements about what type of person I am.

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