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Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many people quitting?

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Re: Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many people quitting?

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The wedding photographer/videographer business I discussed in another thread last week. All his employees quit and he went under. I've personally been involved with more than one general contractor going under. When I was a young carpenter, I followed my best friend from job to job and contractor to contractor. When he walked off a job, the rest of us followed. He and I and a group of Dominicans (from Dominica not th…

> It's incredibly difficult to find skilled tradesman in the Caribbean that will show up sober each day and perform quality work. There's a lot to unpack in that sentence. Care to elaborate?

I will echo this and share some context.

The biggest challenge I've had is that trade schools and certifications are inconsistent, so it's not easy to vet candidates; a lot of hiring is intra-island, requiring significant up-front investment in people without knowing that they'll work out; and equipment and regulations (especially electrical) are highly variable, making it hard for a crew to deliver consistent quality.

That context gives a lot of room for crews and contractors to take advantage of inexperienced project managers and investors, and since the corrupt teams aren't brought back they tend to be the ones which are available for the next gig. When you find a great team you treasure them and even find work to keep them busy and happy between projects.

It's actually a remarkably similar dynamic to H1B engineer mills in the US. Many H1B engineers are brilliant, the best of the world looking for a challenge in America. But many are pawns in outsourcing meat markets.

Re: Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many people quitting?

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You know someone works in programming if their name is Anders or Tobias

I know of a Tobias who ended up working as an analyst-therapist before switching to a successful acting career.

Didn't he switch to performance art first?

Re: Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many people quitting?

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I have the inverse story; factory workers picketing outside. First day the owner of the company walks up to them and explains: this company is worth $X. The terrain (land) it occupies is worth $10X. Please get back to work.

So if the factory is in business, the owner has an $11x asset. Otherwise, a $10x asset.

Seems like still in best interest to have employees for factory.

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if you'd ever worked on a call of duty you'd realize how foolish a statement this is.

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Seems like you're speaking out of turn, and trying to pile in on some sort of weird meritless gatekeeping without doing any basic research first:

https://github.com/ablakey

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You know someone works in programming if their name is Anders or Tobias

I know of a Tobias who ended up working as an analyst-therapist before switching to a successful acting career.

Successful author too. Very supportive, loving wife. Model of a perfect marriage right there, imho.

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I could not imagine being a nurse or a teacher in the US right now. I wish they realized that they have the leverage and can go on strike. I imagine that's difficult for many of them as they most certainly need the income. A rock and a hard place. I always smile when I read about a nurse or teacher switching to a completely different career field and finding themselves more content.

My wife (ER/ICU nursing) walked away from a 25 yr career. She ended up in the kitchen of an upscale grocery store - still working with her hands for 1/3 the salary. (Granted, we could withstand the financial hit.) She would still come home bone-tired after being on her feet for a shift - but much more interested in the work. Not having to deal with the public was another big benefit -the epidemic turned too many peop…

Interesting factoid: "computer programmer" + "nurse" are one of the most common spousal profession pairings. Per a recent HN link/study.

Re: Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many people quitting?

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Famously, the Traitorous Eight left Shockley to found Fairchild Semiconductor. This was essentially the origin story of Silicon Valley. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traitorous_eight https://www.amazon.co.uk/Power-Law-Venture-Capital-Disruptio...

Shockley inadvertently by being an asshole created more wealth for more people possibly than any other single person.

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Or fire nurses and/or pressure them to quit for not being upto date on 3 or 4 vaccines. Think of how many hospitals would have stayed open in Canada without the vaccine cull.

Good riddance. I don't want antivax nutcases on my healthcare team. They picked the wrong profession.

I'm sympathetic to your point, but if your problem is "We don't have enough critical care nurses to provide care", then maybe don't do things that turn away nurses?

Not saying it's acceptable or to be encouraged, but desperate times, lesser evil, etc.

Re: Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many people quitting?

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Almost never happens that way. If a business has customers, it is ALWAYS possible to find monkeys to staff it, no disrespect to monkeys. Of course, in these cases, the monkeys are often incompetent in the context of operating the business, so customers leave (or die). And THEN the business shuts down. Many businesses will indeed complain about not being able to find monkeys to staff the business. What they mean is th…

This guy is pretty much correct - businesses are the value-generation machines, usually there will be someone, somewhere with the skillset to maintain its operation over time for the business owner. And usually they are paid little.
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