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Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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DuckDuckGo was also added to the Opera Browser, approx. 1 month ago. [1] Anyone know how DuckDuckGo do monetization? [1]: http://my.opera.com/ruario/blog/2011/10/19/the-hidden-featur...

http://help.duckduckgo.com/customer/portal/articles/216405-a...

Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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The Common Crawl index, already has 5bn ranked pages, and the data is open to everyone - http://www.commoncrawl.org/

From the genius who brought us what Google adapted as AdSense. I applaud this effort. I'm no Spike Lee, but in my opinion this is doing the right thing. Let people compete over what to do with the raw data (data which is of course publicly accessible but subject to the strange inequities of crawling), how best to process and present it, not over access to it. DDG has to pay Yahoo! for a BOSS license. That is just str…

Yeah, why do I have to pay for things like a car and what not? They all come from publicly accessible goods. Bunch of scammers.

Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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DuckDuckGo was also added to the Opera Browser, approx. 1 month ago. [1] Anyone know how DuckDuckGo do monetization? [1]: http://my.opera.com/ruario/blog/2011/10/19/the-hidden-featur...

afaik they rewrite any amazon and ebay results to link with their own affiliate ID :/

Why the :/ ? DDG isn't taking away anyone _else's_ affiliation, right? This isn't really any different than leaving the referer-id in there, except that it shoehorns "referer" into the "affiliate" api that Amazon et al are geared to pay money for. (Right?)

Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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> I caught myself doing ^T and typing "!w keywords" (to search wikipedia) on other people's computers more than once by now. You realize that you don't have to use DDG for this, right? You can set up keyword searches in the search bar in Firefox or Chrome (don't know about other browsers) for any site, not just those that DDG supports. Then just type 'w ' into the location bar and hit enter for Wikipedia, for example…

except that DDG has them all set up already. if you want them in firefox, you have to set them up yourself.

I don't see how setting them up is a big deal. Once you know how to do it, you'll use it for just about everything. I'm at the point now where 99% of the websites I visit are accessed via either a keyword search or keyword bookmark (i.e., 'hn' for http://hackerne.ws/). Combined with Pentadactyl (Vim emulator) in Firefox, I browse so fast that the only thing that holds me back is how dog-slow the Firefox UI gets unless you regularly create a new profile and "start fresh" every couple of months. But I try to keep all my stuff in the cloud (bookmarks in Xmarks, passwords in LastPass) so that this is fairly painless.

Besides, it eliminates two keystrokes. Considering the amount of times I look up something on Wikipedia every day, I'd say that it pays itself back in spades.

Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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except that DDG has them all set up already. if you want them in firefox, you have to set them up yourself.

My impression is that Google also always returns wikipedia when you have "wiki" as a search term. Only an extra two characters.

That's not the same thing as the '!w' feature on DDG or the 'w' keyword bookmark. Once you Google 'wiki ', you have to click on the first link. Unless you set up an IFL search, in which case you might as well set up a Wikipedia search.

Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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afaik they rewrite any amazon and ebay results to link with their own affiliate ID :/

Why the :/ ? DDG isn't taking away anyone _else's_ affiliation, right? This isn't really any different than leaving the referer-id in there, except that it shoehorns "referer" into the "affiliate" api that Amazon et al are geared to pay money for. (Right?)

I don't like a search engine that messes with results. Keep the ads separate. Just my opinion though.

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My impression is that Google also always returns wikipedia when you have "wiki" as a search term. Only an extra two characters.

That's not the same thing as the '!w' feature on DDG or the 'w' keyword bookmark. Once you Google 'wiki ', you have to click on the first link. Unless you set up an IFL search, in which case you might as well set up a Wikipedia search.

Good point, although I virtually always am looking for a specific article on wikipedia and not searching the site.

Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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Why the :/ ? DDG isn't taking away anyone _else's_ affiliation, right? This isn't really any different than leaving the referer-id in there, except that it shoehorns "referer" into the "affiliate" api that Amazon et al are geared to pay money for. (Right?)

I don't like a search engine that messes with results. Keep the ads separate. Just my opinion though.

We're talking about the organic results here. I was, anyway. Amazon (et al) show up there even without a paid ad.

Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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That's not the same thing as the '!w' feature on DDG or the 'w' keyword bookmark. Once you Google 'wiki ', you have to click on the first link. Unless you set up an IFL search, in which case you might as well set up a Wikipedia search.

Good point, although I virtually always am looking for a specific article on wikipedia and not searching the site.

Which is exactly what my keyword search does. For example, if I type 'w hacker news' into my location bar, I'm instantly redirected to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_news

Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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afaik they rewrite any amazon and ebay results to link with their own affiliate ID :/

Why the :/ ? DDG isn't taking away anyone _else's_ affiliation, right? This isn't really any different than leaving the referer-id in there, except that it shoehorns "referer" into the "affiliate" api that Amazon et al are geared to pay money for. (Right?)

It creates an incentive for DDG to favor Amazon, or other affiliate pages in their rankings.

A search engine where you pay for Ad placement is very different to a search engine where you (effectively) pay for rankings.

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