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Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by dylan604 »

Kiro wrote: post #108
dylan604 wrote: post #48

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They'll just have the AI blur out the shirt and keep your face. I just hold up my middle finger directly in front of my face.

How would they blur the shirt if they can't open the file?

Just because Photoshop has this burden of counterfeit deterence doesn't mean other photo manipulation software suffers the same problem. So, since this is a bullshit feature that prevents work from occuring use other software. Now that other software is being used, use something with an AI underpinning to do things like blur people's faces or their shirts or the whatever your AI has been trained to do.

Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by Tangurena2 »

kazinator wrote: post #24
dumpsterdiver wrote: post #14

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What legitimate use case can you think of where the benefit of faithfully reproducing currency is not outweighed by the need to prevent the proliferation of counterfeit currency?

Making Monopoly money for the kids? You cannot make counterfeit currency with Photoshop. Paper money has security features that won't even convert to pixels in the first place, like holograms, transparencies and fibers embedded in the paper and such, never mind reproduce by conventional printing. This whole deterrence system is idiotic. People who accept an obviously fake printed copy of a banknote basically deserve…

Bars tend to be dimly lit. This makes detecting counterfeits extremely difficult.

Many retail locations in the US hire young people to be cashiers. These people do not have the experience handling cash that older people have. They get almost zero training on what banknotes are supposed to look like. Despite it being illegal in most states to do so, when those cashiers accept a counterfeit bill, the store managers try to take the money out of the pay of those cashiers.

My dad had macular degeneration. Towards the end of his life, he had to depend on the large numbers on banknotes. By the time he died, he could no longer read them and had to use credit cards exclusively.

Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by Tangurena2 »

buildbot wrote: post #87
collegeburner wrote: post #82

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we deadass printed a $7 with Nixon on it and i'm pretty sure we had one or two other stupid things too. lunch lady still took it. kids are assholes.

I feel like at some point it is on the adult for accepting a 7 dollar bill… Some places won’t even take (legal!) 2 dollar bills.

I used to ask the clerks at the bank for $2 notes. Then I would go spend them at stores. I found it to be lots of fun. Some cashiers didn't know where to put them. Some turned around and gave them as change to the next person (this happens a lot at Ren Fests and usually makes the "next person" real excited). One caused lots of laughter in the store when they asked over the intercom "do we take $2 bills?". The most annoying was at a toll booth where the attendant handed it back and said "we don't take Canadian money" (I also had this with $1 coins).

Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by Wistar »

Wistar wrote: post #68

About a year ago, I purchased an Adobe Stock photo of a banded stack of crisp $100 bills for use in a print ad. Then I discovered I couldn't open it in Photoshop. I was, however, able to open it, "place" it, in Adobe Illustrator and was able to finish the ad—minus a couple of small raster-image edits and masks I had wanted to make in Photoshop. I went back to Adobe Stock and read the user comments on that particular…

I meant to mention that the photo of the cash was at a somewhat oblique angle to the camera and, I think, can reasonably be assumed that it is of little use to a counterfeit effort. I was surprised when PS refused to open it.

Here is the shot:

https://as1.ftcdn.net/v2/jpg/00/73/03/66/1000_F_73036638_40D...

Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by Kiro »

dylan604 wrote: post #171
Kiro wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would they blur the shirt if they can't open the file?

Just because Photoshop has this burden of counterfeit deterence doesn't mean other photo manipulation software suffers the same problem. So, since this is a bullshit feature that prevents work from occuring use other software. Now that other software is being used, use something with an AI underpinning to do things like blur people's faces or their shirts or the whatever your AI has been trained to do.

And how is that relevant? The point is to block people from opening the image in Photoshop, nothing else.

Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by umtksa »

jmkni wrote: post #122
unixhero wrote: post #93

Oh well. This is bull and I will not buy Photoshop for my team for this reason. Krita, Gimp and Paint.net will more than suffice.

Your team needs to edit high definition images of bank notes?

who tells they must be high def.

still same when it's low res, like 200x200px 72 dpi

Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by dylan604 »

Kiro wrote: post #176
dylan604 wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because Photoshop has this burden of counterfeit deterence doesn't mean other photo manipulation software suffers the same problem. So, since this is a bullshit feature that prevents work from occuring use other software. Now that other software is being used, use something with an AI underpinning to do things like blur people's faces or their shirts or the whatever your AI has been trained to do.

And how is that relevant? The point is to block people from opening the image in Photoshop, nothing else.

Or, you know, stop using Photoshop for implementing stupid things into your day

Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by Symbiote »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #167
richrichardsson wrote: post #148

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I read that pre-decimilisation it was common to find coins with different monarchs depicted on them, presumably because they last a bit longer than notes. My understanding is that they are in no great rush to remove ER II notes/coins from circulation, but that all newly minted currency will bear Charles III. There's also a great joke doing the rounds that most notes already have Charlie on them anyway.

> There's also a great joke doing the rounds that most notes already have Charlie on them anyway. Would you care to elaborate? This joke went over my head.

It's slang for cocaine.

In Britain, there's a meme that some high proportion of banknotes have been used as straws to snort cocaine.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Charlie#Noun_2

Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by Symbiote »

hilbert42 wrote: post #169
Symbiote wrote: post #165

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Banknotes didn't display the monarch until the 1960s-1980s (depending on value), so there's no precedent to follow in this case.

In case my previous post wasn't clear, old banknotes are continually withdrawn from service and are automatically replenished with new ones. This happens when they're deemed to scruffy to use (i.e. won't be recognised in automatic note/pay machines, etc.). Thus, every country has a deemed service life for notes which can range from some months to several years, moreover high denomination notes are less used so their…

No. There is no precedent. When Elizabeth became queen, banknotes did not picture the monarch, and continued to be printed with the same design.

Over the next 70 years, the designs were changed to include Elizabeth -- although only in 1981 for the £50 note.

> come replenishment time it will automatically be replaced with a new Charles III note

Yes, almost certainly.

> no more Elizabeth II/Turing £50s (with the possible exception of uncirculated stock) will enter service

No, it's not a given that more notes of Series G won't be printed. Changing banknotes is much more disruptive than changing one side of the coins, and there will not yet have been enough £50 notes printed to keep good-quality notes in circulation for 10-20 years.

My guess is the BoE will continue to print the existing £50 for at least 5 more years, probably 10, and possibly 20 more years (given the high denomination). We might see a £5 note with Charles in 2025-2027 or so.

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