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Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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The API is replaced by https://developer.apple.com/documentation/weatherkitrestapi which is available as a REST API and can be used on non-Apple platforms.

its not free like darksky was for small personal apps

500,000 free requests per month

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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I’ve been on the iOS 16 beta for a while now. The Weather app is still hot garbage compared to Dark Sky: 1. It’s never up to date, and there’s no way to tell when it last updated. This has always been an issue, and it’s still not fixed in iOS 16. As I write this, Dark Sky says it’s 70°F outside, while Weather says it’s 68°F. Dark Sky is closer: it’s 71°F. There’s no way to get the Weather app to refresh. The temperat…

> There’s no way to see the precipitation probability in the Weather app,

This is the #1 thing I use Dark Sky for. I powered up the Weather App to look for this feature, and yeah... not there. Boo.

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Carrot is a great app. However, it's expensive and massively overkill for people living in the Bay Area. $40 a year for a warning the 10 times a year it rains is a bit much. Still, until iPadOS 16 brought a native weather app, Carrot was the best alternative for using the same app across all my devices (Mac, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch). I'm glad the built in Weather app is sufficiently good that I can drop that subscr…

You made me question myself if we're looking at the same app... in the "Premium Club" section of the Android Carrot app, I'm reading "Three day free trial, 3.89€ per year after that." This unlocks the Widget, the time machine (past weather reports), removes ads, and saves a kitten. All good things!

You have to be on the "Premium Ultra" tier for rain, lightning, and storm notifications: http://support.meetcarrot.com/weather/

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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> one feature no other weather app has WeatherNerd: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/weather-nerd/id958363882 Has a calendar icon, tap it to see any actual day historically or, if more tham 2 weeks ahead, based on almanac type prediction. Used to be best out there for considering travel three months from now. I’m a weather geek with ~4 folder panes of 9 apps each, and WeatherNerd is in the “must have” front pane. Dark S…

it looks like weathernerd uses the darksky api, so it will have to find a new source for weather data or it’s also gone soon.

Last I subbed to Carrot it supported a few sources but the darksky API was the best there too. Apple pulling it out of community availability hurts.

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Along these lines, I also really like the Aviation Radar maps [1] https://aviationweather.gov/radar/plot?region=alb (feel free to change, in the top left, Type = Comp Ref, and to Loop)

Another good one - https://www.1800wxbrief.com/Website/interactiveMap

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Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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My $500 backpacking satellite communicator, manufactured by a 17B company, uses the Dark Sky api to get weather forecasts. They've got a hilarious FAQ saying basically "Apple won't talk to us either, but we hope they don't shut it down soon".

Sadly exactly what I've come to expect from any software written by Garmin. It's all incredibly half-assed compared to their hardware and actual satellite/gps algorithms.

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Apple announced the purchase of DarkSky back in 2020. The API was originally scheduled to be killed off sometime at the end of 2021 but that got extended. You also haven't been able to signup for a Dev account since May of 2020. There has been a lot of news about this which was kinda hard to miss. And no, Apple is not interested in sharing its API's with anyone.

> And no, Apple is not interested in sharing its API's with anyone. Funny how people will state ‘facts’ that match their internal perceptions, regardless of what’s been publicly stated over and over again. Apple has released the WeatherKit API, which is privacy-first, and pretty much provides what Dark Sky did.

I stand corrected on WeatherKit API.

My "internal perceptions", as you called them, was based on Apple's history. Not any Apple hate. The fact that they are opening something up is very cool, I'm glad to hear it. But a single open API does not address an overall very closed ecosystem.

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Definitely. I've used iTunes Sync Library and iTunes Match since the day they were released by Apple. Never heard of Lala until today.

Lala was great, you could upload your own MP3s and stream them or you could purchase them directly (for download or streaming as a "web song"). If you were a registered member, you could listen to any album/song once at no cost (not just on their platform, embedded in web sites too).

The streaming purchases were the killer feature to me. It was the a la carte alternative to the subscription models that wound up winning.

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Same, but since 2010 on iPad. When Dark Sky got popular, I looked at it, but I couldn't understand what the fuss was about. I'm sure the data is fine, but it is not an attractive app by any means, the graphics all look washed-out, and the data presentation is nothing special. Everything needed for local weather is provided by that free hourly dashboard on weather.gov. Because it is slick, I also use RadarScope on rai…

Dark Sky had three big features: 1. Hyperlocal data which made it _very_ accurate in a lot of cases. Not flawless, but better than others. 2. Simple and fast. Sure, the UI wasn't fancy - but it loaded quickly. No bloat. 3. They had a really lovely API that was simple to use.

> They had a really lovely API

That is enough, and I personally wouldn't have noticed. Thanks for the clue.

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Agree. I have trusted the Environment Canada forecasts for years. Web and basic app. The government-issued stuff isn't as featureful or pretty as some apps, but I go back to it every time because its track record here (Vancouver) has been good to me. I wish there was an API or non-scraping approach to retrieve the daily & hourly forecasts. With the popularity of open data policies on tax-funded public data... it seem…

I'm pretty sure this - https://api.weather.gc.ca/ - is what you're looking for. It looks like they expose lots of data via an API, including the 7 day forecast. For example this should be the Vancouver forecast - https://dd.weather.gc.ca/citypage_weather/xml/BC/s0000141_e.... I think this is the hourly data - though in a slightly odd format - https://dd.weather.gc.ca/nowcasting/matrices/ Edit: Aha found the nowcast d…

Nice! That hourly data link ("*matrices") looks easy enough to parse. Thank you!
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