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Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

voisin wrote: post #50
darth_avocado wrote: post #37

Yes it’s a negative feedback loop created by the very bad product decisions they made to optimize for local maxima of getting more ads revenue. You inject more and more ads followed by more and more suggested content, thereby reducing the in network content. The in network content doesn’t get as much of traction, therefore people stop posting. This in turn forces the feed to have more and more suggestions and a few s…

Sounds a lot like Google Search results. It’s almost as if advertising dollars are an addictive drug that ultimately kills the company.

Never thought I’d see the day, but I actually use Yandex for image search now because they basically deliver the google image search experience of a decade ago. While Google Images has had no one with Vision in charge and been tweaked, buffed and downgraded to the point of uselessness. And you can tell no one on the team actually uses it.

Google Search could honestly be dethroned if someone really wanted to. The usage at this point is habit, not because it’s still a good search engine.

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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londons_explore wrote: post #27
Tao3300 wrote: post #23

I suspect part of it is that Real People are posting less. Since the feed doesn't have a bottom anymore it makes up the difference with sponsored and suggested junk rather than going empty.

This. Most people have ~300 friends. Most of those friends never post, and the 10% that do probably only post a couple of times a year now. That means whenever you log in, there is no content from your friends to see.

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Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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Post by darkhorse222 »

indigochill wrote: post #70
YouWhy wrote: post #14

Knowing the beast firsthand, there's no trace of doubt in my mind that the convergence to a junk product outcome involved a monotonous increase in ad revenue and likely, engagement metrics. There's a tragic dimension that a system which connected so much of humanity to itself so well would be rendered so toxic as a product and as a community in just a few years.

> There's a tragic dimension that a system which connected so much of humanity to itself How would you say Facebook connected humanity differently from what MySpace was doing before Facebook ate their lunch with a more consistent UI? I also am increasingly of the opinion that humanity is not wired to connect globally. Our local social networks give us a buffer against centralized bad actors. When everyone was connect…

>How would you say Facebook connected humanity differently from what MySpace was doing before Facebook ate their lunch with a more consistent UI?

It's simple, more people were on FB than were ever on Myspace.

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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Post by lizknope »

kidme5 wrote: post #139
lizknope wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no idea what you are expecting from "high tc record" I'm getting links about the highest temperature on earth and it is listing it in Fahrenheit so if the "tc" means "temperature celsius" it is failing for me. All the other links are about high temperature superconductors.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie_temperature

These are the top 2 links I get

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest_temperature_recorded_o...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-temperature_superconducti...

"High-temperature superconductors (abbreviated high-Tc"

Seems like google search is working quite well if the second link is what the person wanted.

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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Post by legitster »

My FB feed absolutely sucks. All I get anymore are Disney memes and low effort socialist propaganda - content I have no interest in no matter how much I try to hide it.

I used to keep a fairly curated feed of news and groups and businesses I followed, for some reason FB has decided to throw out all of that out to feed me this garbage.

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Post by r00fus »

csw-001 wrote: post #129
voisin wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds a lot like Google Search results. It’s almost as if advertising dollars are an addictive drug that ultimately kills the company.

I'm not sure it's the advertising dollars that are addictive as much as it is "growth". To keep the stock price up you have sustain a PE that reflects revenue growth, and once you are done signing up new users... Well... Something's got to give. I see the ads as a lot like cutting timber out of a finite forest - it's profitable, but potentially harmful to the ecosystem in a way that can make it unsustainable. As long…

If our profit-uber-alles capitalist model has nothing to restrain it... it raises the question - is the growth benign or malignant?

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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Post by legitster »

mullingitover wrote: post #75

Facebook is a fantastic product, as long as you use it properly and not remotely as Facebook wants you to. - Most important step: Unfollow every single person and page - Follow entertaining groups like 'This cat is c h o n k y' - Keep facebook messenger - Use FB events for party planning That's it, and it's easy: you get all the social graph functionality, all the event planning and chat stuff. The feed (if you even…

...why?

The low effort meme reposts are the worst part of FB. When FB used to show me the things I followed at least it made sense to log in.

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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Post by danudey »

nostromo wrote: post #209
csw-001 wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure it's the advertising dollars that are addictive as much as it is "growth". To keep the stock price up you have sustain a PE that reflects revenue growth, and once you are done signing up new users... Well... Something's got to give. I see the ads as a lot like cutting timber out of a finite forest - it's profitable, but potentially harmful to the ecosystem in a way that can make it unsustainable. As long…

Amazon seems to have taken a different route. Keep margins low and don’t make too much money in order to starve any potential competitors of capital. Of course - you still need to grow revenue for this to work - just not profits.

Doesn't help that their recommendations are always "Oh, you bought an air conditioner? Come look at this wide variety of other air conditioners we have!" rather than, say, adapters for connecting air conditioners to different window types or home electricity usage monitoring or something.

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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Post by topaz0 »

voisin wrote: post #50
darth_avocado wrote: post #37

Yes it’s a negative feedback loop created by the very bad product decisions they made to optimize for local maxima of getting more ads revenue. You inject more and more ads followed by more and more suggested content, thereby reducing the in network content. The in network content doesn’t get as much of traction, therefore people stop posting. This in turn forces the feed to have more and more suggestions and a few s…

Sounds a lot like Google Search results. It’s almost as if advertising dollars are an addictive drug that ultimately kills the company.

Or maybe profit is an addictive drug that kills the company
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