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Re: Indie Game Music Bundle (Pay what you want)

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Post by raoulette »

andrewfelix wrote: post #29
raoulette wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would certainly not buy music if I can't listen to it first, so I looked for a way to listen to samples or something and found the same "looks like a play button but really an image" everywhere. Wondering why someone would put fake "play" button that do nothing at all, apart maybe hurting sales, so I headed to the support page and I was not disappointed to see this http://i.imgur.com/7M1GH.png How can I trust you w…

What a ridiculous diatribe. The site works fine, as do the audio previews. You're complaining because the site doesn't support iceweasel and bitcoin? I'd wager this isn't the first site you've had those issues with.

No, I'm complaining because I'd like themto take my money and it is not possible for me to do so.

And no the site does not work at all on any of the computers (linux, mac and windows) and browsers (opera firefox, iron, rekonq, safari) combination I tried. Didn't work on ipad or smartphone either.

The cause of the problem: it requires adobe flash plugin I dont have and fails to make any mention of it or to provide a fallback alternative.

Not that it would be difficult to provide an alternative way to play those mp3 for which you can find the direct link in the source of the page.

When someone wants to give you money and your website or process prevent them from doing so, the only conclusion is that it is badly thought and designed. But only offering support through flash is plain stupid, how can anyone get in touch to tell them about a problem with the flash plugin when this very plugin is required to get support ? Suddenly email and web form are not good enough ?

Re: Indie Game Music Bundle (Pay what you want)

#42

Post by raoulette »

shinratdr wrote: post #32
raoulette wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would certainly not buy music if I can't listen to it first, so I looked for a way to listen to samples or something and found the same "looks like a play button but really an image" everywhere. Wondering why someone would put fake "play" button that do nothing at all, apart maybe hurting sales, so I headed to the support page and I was not disappointed to see this http://i.imgur.com/7M1GH.png How can I trust you w…

This is a hilarious, almost satirical level of entitlement. "I will copy your music if you don't perfectly support my extremely uncommon desktop environment and browser combination, I'm not willing to put in the slightest bit of effort, oh, and I can only offer Monopoly money. What!? That's somehow a problem!? ASSHOLES!" Honestly, keep your money. I don't think they even want it, $20 bucks says you'll demand a refund…

It's not about perfect support, it's about something that just works.

Don't you know that piracy happens mostly because there is no other convenient way to get the content. I'd be happy to give them my money, but there is no way for me to do so.

Turns out all the samples are actually mp3 files (direct links are to be found in the source). These mp3 play fine in my browser, it's only the required use of the flash plugin that prevent me to do so.

Yes I'm part of the estimated 10% of web users that don't have flash installed. Maybe you think that it's good business practice to tell 10% of the potential customer to go fuck themselves, I don't.

I'm not sorry about having ethics and refusing to use paypal or for not wanting google to track me more than they already do by not using their online payment services, it's simply good privacy practice.

Actually they do offer flac which is among why I'm interested in this in the first place, I don't mind paying the extra to get the flac version as my whole music collection is flac only. I simply don't buy mp3.

Re: Indie Game Music Bundle (Pay what you want)

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Post by raoulette »

raoulette wrote: post #16
zirconst wrote: post #11

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Hi, zircon here. I'm one of the musicians involved with the Game Music Bundle (Return All Robots! OST, Antigravity). Let me see if I can answer your questions. 1. We will probably release more detailed stats once the sale is over, but as of earlier today we've sold over 9,000 bundles. 2. It's a holiday sale because Black Friday through Cyber Monday is a popular time for there to be sales on things, especially digital…

I would certainly not buy music if I can't listen to it first, so I looked for a way to listen to samples or something and found the same "looks like a play button but really an image" everywhere. Wondering why someone would put fake "play" button that do nothing at all, apart maybe hurting sales, so I headed to the support page and I was not disappointed to see this http://i.imgur.com/7M1GH.png How can I trust you w…

Funny how people don't understand that criticism is feedback and downvote my comment.

Re: Indie Game Music Bundle (Pay what you want)

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Post by ralphsaunders »

code_duck wrote: post #39
rcfox wrote: post #36

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> Torrents aren't much better If your torrented video was corrupted, it's because the original file was corrupted. Your torrent client would have thrown away anything that's different from the original. > The best way to do this would probably be a multi-part rar. They already offer multiple-file downloads. The compression algorithm isn't going to change the fact that multiple concurrent downloads fail.

rar is often employed more as a packager than a compressor. For instance, if you have a 5 GB file to offer for download, you split it into 7 parts with rar and offer it as a self-extracting .exe, like they are doing here for instance http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=11575 As for the file being corrupt, I suspect something else may have been going on, such as bugs with torrent clients. I don't know…

Well, if it's coming from more than one source (multiple trackers) it could rather simply have been tampered with.

Re: Indie Game Music Bundle (Pay what you want)

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Post by shinratdr »

raoulette wrote: post #42
shinratdr wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a hilarious, almost satirical level of entitlement. "I will copy your music if you don't perfectly support my extremely uncommon desktop environment and browser combination, I'm not willing to put in the slightest bit of effort, oh, and I can only offer Monopoly money. What!? That's somehow a problem!? ASSHOLES!" Honestly, keep your money. I don't think they even want it, $20 bucks says you'll demand a refund…

It's not about perfect support, it's about something that just works. Don't you know that piracy happens mostly because there is no other convenient way to get the content. I'd be happy to give them my money, but there is no way for me to do so. Turns out all the samples are actually mp3 files (direct links are to be found in the source). These mp3 play fine in my browser, it's only the required use of the flash plug…

> It's not about perfect support, it's about something that just works.

For you, on your totally atypical setup. Try it on 90% of the worlds machines, "it just works". In other words, demanding perfect support.

> Don't you know that piracy happens mostly because there is no other convenient way to get the content. I'd be happy to give them my money, but there is no way for me to do so.

There are plenty of ways, you are just too much of a stubborn snob to utilize any of them. I fully agree with this argument when there actually is a barrier to entry, but you are just building them instead.

> Maybe you think that it's good business practice to tell 10% of the potential customer to go fuck themselves, I don't.

I do. When they are as picky and demanding as you, in the long run typically they'll cause you more support headaches. Their 10% isn't worth the 20% you lose overall when dealing with their over the top demands.

> I'm not sorry about having ethics and refusing to use paypal or for not wanting google to track me more than they already do by not using their online payment services, it's simply good privacy practice.

Then be ready to repeat this experience with most things on the internet. Your Monopoly money is unproven and highly unstable, only those that haven't thought it through very well or are desperate for cash from security nuts are willing to accept it, and even then they would rather take real currency if you've got it.

> Actually they do offer flac which is among why I'm interested in this in the first place

They didn't when I posted my comment.

> I simply don't buy mp3.

You didn't have to tell me that, it was clear from your original comment that you would never allow anything but FLAC to tarnish your precious ears. Nobody who's as big a snob as you would be caught dead listening to lossy codecs.

Re: Indie Game Music Bundle (Pay what you want)

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Post by shinratdr »

raoulette wrote: post #43
raoulette wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would certainly not buy music if I can't listen to it first, so I looked for a way to listen to samples or something and found the same "looks like a play button but really an image" everywhere. Wondering why someone would put fake "play" button that do nothing at all, apart maybe hurting sales, so I headed to the support page and I was not disappointed to see this http://i.imgur.com/7M1GH.png How can I trust you w…

Funny how people don't understand that criticism is feedback and downvote my comment.

Maybe if you didn't layer your criticism with serval coats of "entitled asshole" people would be more willing to hear you out?

Re: Indie Game Music Bundle (Pay what you want)

#47

Post by andrewfelix »

raoulette wrote: post #41
andrewfelix wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a ridiculous diatribe. The site works fine, as do the audio previews. You're complaining because the site doesn't support iceweasel and bitcoin? I'd wager this isn't the first site you've had those issues with.

No, I'm complaining because I'd like themto take my money and it is not possible for me to do so. And no the site does not work at all on any of the computers (linux, mac and windows) and browsers (opera firefox, iron, rekonq, safari) combination I tried. Didn't work on ipad or smartphone either. The cause of the problem: it requires adobe flash plugin I dont have and fails to make any mention of it or to provide a f…

You're trolling. I know it, you know it, the rest of the readers know it. That's why you've been downvoted. Next time you respond to an article have a think about the issue and how best to communicate your specific problems.

Re: Indie Game Music Bundle (Pay what you want)

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Post by nitrogen »

andrewfelix wrote: post #29
raoulette wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would certainly not buy music if I can't listen to it first, so I looked for a way to listen to samples or something and found the same "looks like a play button but really an image" everywhere. Wondering why someone would put fake "play" button that do nothing at all, apart maybe hurting sales, so I headed to the support page and I was not disappointed to see this http://i.imgur.com/7M1GH.png How can I trust you w…

What a ridiculous diatribe. The site works fine, as do the audio previews. You're complaining because the site doesn't support iceweasel and bitcoin? I'd wager this isn't the first site you've had those issues with.

Unfortunately the Bandcamp previews also fail to play on Firefox 8 and Google Chrome on Ubuntu, with Flash installed and FlashBlock/Adblock disabled.
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