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Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Correlation is not causation. And even to suggest small amounts of THC can cause "a months long psychotic episode" is absurd, especially because it is an ordinary risk of being bipolar. If a mentally healthy individual was sent into a month's long psychotic episode immediately after smoking a bong, then maybe, and that is still a huge maybe. Again, cannabis has been in use recreationally and medicinally for more than…

> but psychotic episode remains a vanishingly rare event among users, insignificantly so. I don't think that's likely to be true at all. Single digit percentages of all humans have a psychotic disorder. If cannabis had no effect and such an event is coincidental, we would certainly not call it "vanishingly rare". > But these days conservatives have gone overboard in twisting the facts to promote their nanny state age…

You can not win an argument promoting false facts. Far less than one percent of the population will suffer a psychotic episode, between 0.25% and 0.64%.

If being told what to do is intolerable to you, then stop telling others what to do. You are not in charge, nor are those with your false beliefs.

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> However some of the conversations on the use of cannabis recently have changed from “it’s a drug, but it isn’t that bad” to “it is completely harmless”. Or even worse, "it's nothing but beneficial!". And yes, I'm a semi-regular "user"

People cannot cope with even the slightest gray area, so they end up saying and doing ridiculous things. Everything has to be 100% good or 100% bad. The political environment makes this worse: if you concede anything at all, it will simply be used as a weapon against you. Of course, it took decades to get people to acknowledge that the harms of some drugs were far less than the harm caused by policing them, and that…

I’ve noticed binary thinking everywhere, even among smart people.

I think thought leaders know this which is why, for example, the woke cult doesn’t allow any disagreement with any piece of the transgender narrative.

It’s all or nothing because they’re afraid that allowing any disagreement will cause people’s binary thinking to switch to the other side.

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Shame culture is one large reason why paces like Japan have so much less crime. I wish there was more of this, would be nice to have cleaner streets…

Plus fewer of those pesky non-conformists going out in public, and more people forced into cognitively self-destructive lives.

You win some you lose some, can't have everything in life :)

Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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People cannot cope with even the slightest gray area, so they end up saying and doing ridiculous things. Everything has to be 100% good or 100% bad. The political environment makes this worse: if you concede anything at all, it will simply be used as a weapon against you. Of course, it took decades to get people to acknowledge that the harms of some drugs were far less than the harm caused by policing them, and that…

I’ve noticed binary thinking everywhere, even among smart people. I think thought leaders know this which is why, for example, the woke cult doesn’t allow any disagreement with any piece of the transgender narrative. It’s all or nothing because they’re afraid that allowing any disagreement will cause people’s binary thinking to switch to the other side.

Yeah, you censor only ideas you’re afraid somebody might agree with. A related phenomenon is accepting anything a “thought leader” says as long as that person gives (or implies) a “reason.”

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This is an interesting claim, or I'm reading it wrong. Wouldn't "equivalent intoxication" mean the driver in both cases equally shouldn't be behind the wheel? Somewhat related, but I'm still curious how they test marijuana intoxication level in drivers. Is there an equivalent BAC-type test, especially considering how long weed stays in the system?

> Wouldn't "equivalent intoxication" mean the driver in both cases equally shouldn't be behind the wheel? No, "equivalent" here is general-purpose intoxication, not something calibrated to driving. Since the effects are so different, we should expect significantly different levels of driving impairment to be likely.

What is this based on?

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Nearly 70% of dispensaries in Colorado recommended cannabis for morning sickness: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5970054/

Question: Are US cannabis dispensaries run by independent qualified medical professionals, or are they simply businesses interested in flogging cannabis to everybody to make as much profit as they can [1]? Given the (bonkers IMHO) profit motive of the US medical industry, I suspect the latter, though I'd be interested to hear from those with experience. [1] Given some of the stuff I've read online, I'm pretty sure th…

In most states it is a free for all, especially in non-medical stores. A few of the medical only states require them to be dispensed by a pharmacist, but that is the exception.

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It's not that complex, actually. The vast majority of fats, all the natural ones, basically, are fine. Healthy, even. The weirdass plastic fats created by injecting hydrogen into vegetable oil are not fine. Done! Was that really so nuanced? No. It was not.

Palm oils in particular are not very healthy and are suspected to be a leading cause of diet-induced heart disease. Not all fats are created equally, or in equal proportions. Palm oils are high in specific saturated fats that are linked to cardiovascular disease. Palm oils are some of the most common fats found in prepared foods, especially foods that need solid fats at room temperatures. The majority of peanut butte…

Fine, true, palm oil is one of the rare exceptions. But the point is, this is not a tremendously complex issue. A person of average intelligence can learn about partially hydrogenated trans fats, and one or two other fats to avoid, and master this whole issue in a few minutes.

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> People cannot cope with even the slightest gray area, so they end up saying and doing ridiculous things. Everything has to be 100% good or 100% bad. I suggest this binary positioning is a very American phenomenon; the cultural reasons for which I'm unable to suggest a reason for.

> I suggest this binary positioning is a very American phenomenon I really don't think so. Binary thinking is something I've personally noticed and thought about for a while, and I think it stems from the human brain just trying to simplify things. In most scenarios, it is far easier (and time efficient) to only consider the 2 extreme options rather than the entire spectrum of possible options, even if those two extr…

This citation [0] is not particularly authoritative.

Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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People cannot cope with even the slightest gray area, so they end up saying and doing ridiculous things. Everything has to be 100% good or 100% bad. The political environment makes this worse: if you concede anything at all, it will simply be used as a weapon against you. Of course, it took decades to get people to acknowledge that the harms of some drugs were far less than the harm caused by policing them, and that…

I’ve noticed binary thinking everywhere, even among smart people. I think thought leaders know this which is why, for example, the woke cult doesn’t allow any disagreement with any piece of the transgender narrative. It’s all or nothing because they’re afraid that allowing any disagreement will cause people’s binary thinking to switch to the other side.

Agree-- and T cult too! They vote out any pol who disagrees with dear leader.

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Should men not tell women not to drink alcohol while pregnant? Men can't understand what it is like to be pregnant. What right does a man have to control a women's body?

Under what circumstances will you tolerate being told what to do? Right! Never.

I tolerate it all the time. I live in a society that tells me I can't jaywalk, speed, drink and drive and everything else there are laws against. These crimes a victimless and yet I still follow them (for the most part). When I don't I accept the risk I am given a ticket or am arrested.
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