Scala isn't fun anymore
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Scala isn't fun anymore
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Re: Scala isn't fun anymore
#2I don't have a ton to say here, the article says it all really. But this also reflects my experience when developing with Scala and although I love the language and its brevity, I went back to Java because I hated the Scala toolchain, sbt, dependency issues, etc. Basically, I like the language in isolation but the overall experience was horrible.
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#3This guy loves sbt. For me it's one of the main reasons to use TypeScript instead of Scala.js. npm is so much better. I have been writing a lot of code in Scala.js and Scala about a decade ago, but thinking now of it, I feel only dread. Scala the language is nice enough, but the whole ecosystem around it is so stuffy.
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#4Now I just miss Rust when writing Scala.
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#5Kotlin is a fine middle ground. I would say that coroutines was a misstep (though that's a matter of taste), but otherwise their choices have been pragmatic, and their multiplatform efforts are impressive.
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#6> the ecosystem is essentially a microcosm of the US political landscape
what does this mean?
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#7I actually think Scala is in the best position it's ever been.
There is a commitment to making the language simpler, easier and cleaner.
On the backend, ZIO (https://zio.dev) is the best concurrency library on any platform. On the frontend you have really interesting Scala.js projects like Laminar (https://laminar.dev).
The biggest issue really is the tooling. SBT is simply awful.
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#8Kotlin is a fine middle ground. I would say that coroutines was a misstep (though that's a matter of taste), but otherwise their choices have been pragmatic, and their multiplatform efforts are impressive.
Yeah, the interop makes Kotlin also a hundred times easier to test out. No changes to setup or tooling, just drop a few lines in your pom.xml and you're good to go.
But curious, what's wrong with the coroutines? For some projects I've found them a nice abstraction when you have lots of IO-bound tasks, and they're bound at various places in the code making use of a single executor+threads/tasks hard to scale.
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#9I actually think Scala is in the best position it's ever been. There is a commitment to making the language simpler, easier and cleaner. On the backend, ZIO ( https://zio.dev ) is the best concurrency library on any platform. On the frontend you have really interesting Scala.js projects like Laminar ( https://laminar.dev ). The biggest issue really is the tooling. SBT is simply awful.
On any platform?
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#10I wrote scala for six years and was on the team to first deploy akka in production. I've seen Json libraries come and go while also struggling to read files written with OO and FP patterns intermixed. Scala can be beautiful but in practice it gets messy.
Switched to Go four years ago and I've never looked back. Go made programming fun again just like PHP did before either of them.