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Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

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honest question: why are so many people hating on unity? is it the launcher bar?

because nobody likes to be treated like a four year old, I personally hate ubuntu's approach on this: "THIS IS GOOD FOR YOU! USE IT! WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU".

Unity might be the next big thing in the desktop environment phenomena but forcing it down through our throats is very obnoxious.

Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After Gnome2 was discontinued, Canonical _could_ have listened to their current users and instead of Unity, developed something similar to Mint's MGSE. But Canonical suddendly decided to discard their current target group, desktop users, which made Ubuntu popular, and suddenly switch everything to tablet users. People hate on Unity for two reasons: 1. Because they feel betrayed by Canonical for switching to another t…

I'm pretty sure these tablet complaints are revisionist history. Unity has been in development for years, long before the iPad started tablet mania.

Citation needed.

Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

#63
post #20

I am not convinced by their "Fresh Upgrade" that looks like a fresh install! Ideally we should be able to upgrade automatically like Chrome or Windows or Wordpress. The future of Linux is here.

With a clean install, there's less chance of an incident, and if you put /home on a separate partition, you don't have to back up your data (although you should, anyway). If you installed extra packages from the repos, you can get them back with: dpkg --get-selections > packages.txt After reinstalling, do dpkg --set-selections As for automatic upgrades, that goes against the Linux / free software attitude that the us…

Some kind of service pack to update the software would be nice. But if Wordpress is automatic when you choose to update, you are not obliged to update, there is nothing against free software here!

Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

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post #35

honest question: why are so many people hating on unity? is it the launcher bar?

For me, broken Alt+Tab that switches applications instead of windows is a non-starter. And the top application menu bar. The rest is OK and I can learn/adapt.

Try Alt-' (or whatever key is above Tab on your keyboard). Alt-' switches windows, Alt-Tab switches applications.

Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

#65
post #61

honest question: why are so many people hating on unity? is it the launcher bar?

because nobody likes to be treated like a four year old, I personally hate ubuntu's approach on this: "THIS IS GOOD FOR YOU! USE IT! WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU". Unity might be the next big thing in the desktop environment phenomena but forcing it down through our throats is very obnoxious.

Nobody is forcing you to do anything. You're free to use a different desktop or distribution. The source is even provided to you free of charge to modify as you see fit.

Complaining that someone else is not doing free work just to suit you personally sounds like acting like a four year old, honestly.

Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

#66

The push to Unity made me try alternate window managers. I've ended up sticking with Awesome, which is a pretty sweet tiling window manager. More minimalistic than it needs to be, but still, the core functionality is great. I have multiple workspaces with different tiling schemes for different tasks - one for general purpose, one for terminal hacking (spiralling terminal windows), one for bug fixing (side by side win…

When Ubuntu moved to Gnome3/Unity, I did the same. I tried Kubuntu, but found KDE far too different from what I remember back in the KDE3 days to be comfortable with. Then I settled on Xubuntu, which gave me Gnome2 familiarity with XFCE. Then, I installed Bluetile ( http://bluetile.org/ ) which is a tiling window manager that functions well in desktop environments. It lets me use several different tiling layouts and…

I'll try this, thanks.

Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm on 11.04 with gnome-classic and working well. The key is to go back to the previous releases compiz via ppa.

Could you write a little more about this, please?

http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/how-to-downgrade-to-compiz-08...

Every version of Compiz newer than the one in this PPA gives me endless problems. If you're still on 11.04 like me (I downgraded after upgrading to 11.10), this PPA is a must.

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