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Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by kube-system »

unosama wrote: post #88
kube-system wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody called it a counterfeit prevention system. If Adobe doesn’t want to facilitate counterfeiting, that’s their prerogative, regardless of their ineffectiveness in stopping crime that is beyond their ability to control. Adobe can only control what they control, and this is that.

This is a regulation, not something Adobe voluntarily did

> Adobe voluntarily chose to work with international banks to help solve the problem, said Kevin Connor, Adobe's director of product management for professional digital imaging.

https://www.wired.com/2004/01/currency-detector-easy-to-defe...

Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by synicalx »

dumpsterdiver wrote: post #14
chrismsimpson wrote: post #8

More proprietary software treating their users like criminals as the default.

What legitimate use case can you think of where the benefit of faithfully reproducing currency is not outweighed by the need to prevent the proliferation of counterfeit currency?

Causing inflation? Oh wait sorry that's the governments reason for printing money

Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by kube-system »

devwastaken wrote: post #83
kube-system wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People who accept an obviously fake printed copy of a banknote basically deserve it This is easy to say from a position of privilege, but the people trying to pass fake banknotes will just find weak targets. In hurried situations, in the dark, to the elderly, disabled, preoccupied, etc.

Safety vs freedom. If we continue to conjure hypotheticals and remove responsibility from the individual then you will be the cause of the issue, not the solution. The overwhelming majority of transactions are not even cash anymore. I would not throw around the word "privledged" like a triangle that fits in every hole. Or else it loses it's intended meaning.

This outcome is freedom. Adobe chose to voluntarily add CDS to photoshop. Their software, their choice.

Nothing here is hypothetical. Scams exist precisely because they do fool people. To say that people “deserve” to be scammed is either a statement made from a malice or from a disconnect of the reality of who falls victim to scams.

If someone has never even considered that someone’s disability (as one example) would make a person a target for a scam, then yes, I am very comfortable calling them privileged.

Sloppy counterfeiters aren’t passing off fake bills to rich educated bankers, they’re handing them off to people they think will fall for it. They’re looking for people who look like they’ll make easy victims. These people don’t deserve to be cheated.

Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by denimnerd42 »

teruakohatu wrote: post #69
hilbert42 wrote: post #39

Years ago I had an Austrian 5000 Schilling note in absolute mint condition. It was a beautiful note with an image of Mozart on it but it was too expensive for me to keep just to admire (~$500 USD) so I cashed it in for local currency. (Also, it had to be converted as the Schilling was being made obsolete by the Euro.) However before I did I wanted to keep a permanent record of it so I scanned it in the highest resolu…

In hindsight do you think it would have been profitable to hold onto it? A quick look at eBay the listings range from ~500 EUR to ~2000 EUR. But what they actually sell for is what matters.

On the ebay sidebar there is a filter for Sold.

Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by dillondoyle »

collegeburner wrote: post #82
dillondoyle wrote: post #67

Can open a file of money in illustrator, then copy and paste in as an object in Ps! Really dumb 'feature.' As if anyone could print money at home that would work, and even if so somehow this will stop amateur counterfeiters. Welll... I guess we did do that as pre-teens for $1 cookies. School found out obviously. Poor lady whose job that was I'm sure she got in trouble. kids are assholes.

we deadass printed a $7 with Nixon on it and i'm pretty sure we had one or two other stupid things too. lunch lady still took it. kids are assholes.

;) that's amazing.

We used to basically destroy the paper so it felt 'used.' The first couple times sure just old as hell money. But i'm sure that lady had to have known when all the money looked like that!

They probably just want kids to have fun & get snacks.

But also I hate that we charge kids for meals in the first place.

The food should be free for all and much healthier and better quality.

Better off parents will still pay for their kids' meals regardless via taxes.

Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by jansan »

hda2 wrote: post #59

Besides the EURion constellation, what other indicators do imaging software like this use to detect bills? Have any other indicators been made public yet?

Interesting question. And what happens if you put a lot of EURion constellations on an arbitrary image? Is there any software that will refuse to open the image or any printer that will not copy/scan it?

Re: Adobe Photoshop: Counterfeit deterrence system

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Post by Asooka »

sircastor wrote: post #70
kazinator wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Making Monopoly money for the kids? You cannot make counterfeit currency with Photoshop. Paper money has security features that won't even convert to pixels in the first place, like holograms, transparencies and fibers embedded in the paper and such, never mind reproduce by conventional printing. This whole deterrence system is idiotic. People who accept an obviously fake printed copy of a banknote basically deserve…

> People who accept an obviously fake printed copy of a banknote basically deserve it; Nobody deserves to be defrauded.

Nobody deserves shit in their pants, but the world isn't obligated to wipe their arse either.
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