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Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by aeharding »

nojito wrote: post #29
morley wrote: post #10

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I've used the weather.gov site for the last ~5 years, and it has been great. I bookmark both the 7-day local forecast[1] and the hourly dashboard[2]. [1] https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=40.71234500000... [2] https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?w0=t&w3u=1&w5=pop&...

They also have a really nice api. https://www.weather.gov/documentation/services-web-api

It has a really nice design. Much easier to use than any other US government api I’ve used. Just some minor issues with upstream data availability leading to errors, as well as duplicate alerts.

I’m using it for a side project (https://ppg.report/41.876,-87.624)

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Post by wodenokoto »

calsy wrote: post #179
iamdamian wrote: post #156

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I was describing my experience on iOS 15 for the past year or so. The incorrect results I'm seeing are in-app—what do you mean that it's not fully integrated in iOS 15?

Prior to iOS 16, Apple Weather was using 'The Weather Company' for their forecasts I believe.

Yep. I’m on ios15 and it says “weather channel” at the bottom

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Post by scarface74 »

PascLeRasc wrote: post #178
inlined wrote: post #171

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I’m really tired of hearing everyone suggest Google is some boogeyman trying to do something subversive to get your data. Anyone who thinks this should grab their nearest google engineer and talk about privacy controls internally. Privacy is critical to the company and every product launch has a privacy review. In one of my launches we even had to add an opt in to allow users to share data with themselves because it…

All of the Google employees I've met have been incredibly vocal about security and privacy, really considerate about how technology should serve us, as well as being some of the kindest engineers I've ever met. I can't really square the HN attitude of Google being evil with my experience.

How does Google make money? Apple’s value proposition is very simple. I give Apple money and they give me goods and services.

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Post by scarface74 »

atchoo wrote: post #146
freetime2 wrote: post #120

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I agree that it's a concentration of market power. I disagree that government intervention is necessary or beneficial here.

One example should be enough to see a problem. Do you not see a problem of Apple denuding other platforms all independent applications? They've taken what... Siri, Shazam, NextVR, Dark Skies off other platforms. How would you quantify your limit if not one? They block Firefox/Opera in preference to their own, they impose undue costs on Spotify etc. I see a need for separation of pipes and content. Break up the apple…

Shazam is still available on Android and Apple announced that WeatherKit will be available for Android.

But more to the point, Android is backed by Google - a company with a 1T+ market cap. If Google can’t keep up with Apple, it’s not because of lack resources. It’s because Google has the attention span of crack addled flea.

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Post by neurostimulant »

happyopossum wrote: post #182
ShakataGaNai wrote: post #90

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Apple announced the purchase of DarkSky back in 2020. The API was originally scheduled to be killed off sometime at the end of 2021 but that got extended. You also haven't been able to signup for a Dev account since May of 2020. There has been a lot of news about this which was kinda hard to miss. And no, Apple is not interested in sharing its API's with anyone.

> And no, Apple is not interested in sharing its API's with anyone. Funny how people will state ‘facts’ that match their internal perceptions, regardless of what’s been publicly stated over and over again. Apple has released the WeatherKit API, which is privacy-first, and pretty much provides what Dark Sky did.

The API is only for apple devices, right? Web apps that uses Dark Sky's API (like the gp's webapp) will absolutely get killed.

Edit: I was wrong. It has REST API and access from other platforms are allowed.

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Post by jxramos »

can16358p wrote: post #201
beefman wrote: post #187

Folks here said the new Weather app has the same info. I upgraded to iOS 16 about a year before I normally would just to check this. And nope, it doesn't have the one feature I use Dark Sky for – the one feature no other weather app has: the ability to see what the weather was yesterday. It's what Dark Sky calls "Time Machine". (Can't believe Apple let them use this name this long, now that I think of it.) (I support…

Weather app doesn't even show the hour before. I get it, less features = simpler user interface and less code maintenance... but they could at least start at current hour BUT provide ability to scroll back in time for a few days, perhaps showing that data with 0.5 opacity faded to indicate that the data is no longer relevant (past). Otherwise I LOVE the updated weather app in iOS 16 where you can see many data points…

I’m not a big fan of this less features ethos. This feature anemic set of software that gets put out more often than not drives me bonkers. It’s as if they don’t want power users.

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Post by brianpan »

neurostimulant wrote: post #215
happyopossum wrote: post #182

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> And no, Apple is not interested in sharing its API's with anyone. Funny how people will state ‘facts’ that match their internal perceptions, regardless of what’s been publicly stated over and over again. Apple has released the WeatherKit API, which is privacy-first, and pretty much provides what Dark Sky did.

The API is only for apple devices, right? Web apps that uses Dark Sky's API (like the gp's webapp) will absolutely get killed. Edit: I was wrong. It has REST API and access from other platforms are allowed.

REST API is available. Up to 500,000 API calls a month.

https://developer.apple.com/weatherkit/get-started/

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Post by robotmlg »

neurostimulant wrote: post #215
happyopossum wrote: post #182

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> And no, Apple is not interested in sharing its API's with anyone. Funny how people will state ‘facts’ that match their internal perceptions, regardless of what’s been publicly stated over and over again. Apple has released the WeatherKit API, which is privacy-first, and pretty much provides what Dark Sky did.

The API is only for apple devices, right? Web apps that uses Dark Sky's API (like the gp's webapp) will absolutely get killed. Edit: I was wrong. It has REST API and access from other platforms are allowed.

nope, it has a REST API. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/weatherkitrestapi

I know people who are already using it in random python scripts and whatnot, e.g. https://sixcolors.com/post/2022/06/adding-apple-weatherkit-d...

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Post by no-reply »

neurostimulant wrote: post #215
happyopossum wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And no, Apple is not interested in sharing its API's with anyone. Funny how people will state ‘facts’ that match their internal perceptions, regardless of what’s been publicly stated over and over again. Apple has released the WeatherKit API, which is privacy-first, and pretty much provides what Dark Sky did.

The API is only for apple devices, right? Web apps that uses Dark Sky's API (like the gp's webapp) will absolutely get killed. Edit: I was wrong. It has REST API and access from other platforms are allowed.

Nope. Should be able to use it as a REST API on other platforms too.

> It’s easy to use WeatherKit in your apps for iOS 16, iPadOS 16, macOS 13, tvOS 16, and watchOS 9 with a platform-specific Swift API, and on any other platform with a REST API. [0]

0: https://developer.apple.com/weatherkit/

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Post by andreareina »

inlined wrote: post #171
GeekyBear wrote: post #108

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>We still do not, and never will, sell your location data to 3rd parties. They sold the whole company. If they had sold to a data hoarder like Google or Facebook, I have very little doubt that the data would have been included. Who in their right mind thinks Google wanted to buy Fitbit for anything but their data?

I’m really tired of hearing everyone suggest Google is some boogeyman trying to do something subversive to get your data. Anyone who thinks this should grab their nearest google engineer and talk about privacy controls internally. Privacy is critical to the company and every product launch has a privacy review. In one of my launches we even had to add an opt in to allow users to share data with themselves because it…

Except I can't set a home location in Maps without enabling location history. Neither can I limit location history to Maps. And if I've logged out of my account I can't access groups archives (but that works fine incog, so why am I being required to sign in?). And Google is damn aggressive about linking accounts with who knows what repercussions. Actually, I do know: get all your accounts nuked because of a clear false positive that Google will nonetheless uphold[1].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32560361

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