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Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by kstrauser »

Spooky23 wrote: post #66
kstrauser wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Carrot is a great app. However, it's expensive and massively overkill for people living in the Bay Area. $40 a year for a warning the 10 times a year it rains is a bit much. Still, until iPadOS 16 brought a native weather app, Carrot was the best alternative for using the same app across all my devices (Mac, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch). I'm glad the built in Weather app is sufficiently good that I can drop that subscr…

I want to like carrot, but agree it’s too expensive. I use apple weather/weather.gov and MyRadar. MyRadar is the best weather radar app I’ve found and once little league season starts it’s an essential.

I sold so many copies of Dark Sky at Little League games. “Huh, it’s going to rain in 7 minutes.” “LOL, that’s awfully exact!” 6:45 later, it starts to sprinkle. “What was that called again?”

I hope Weather proves to be as reliable.

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by happyopossum »

ShakataGaNai wrote: post #90
D_Joni wrote: post #69

It's funny how this is posted two days after I finished my Weather web app which uses Dark Sky's free API: https://weather-dj.netlify.app/ Let's hope that in the future Apple continues to deliver the same API structure as Dark Sky did, because it will be a big shame if they did some changes or limitations to it. Although I only use this app mostly for my personal use, the effort that I've put into this would be for n…

Apple announced the purchase of DarkSky back in 2020. The API was originally scheduled to be killed off sometime at the end of 2021 but that got extended. You also haven't been able to signup for a Dev account since May of 2020. There has been a lot of news about this which was kinda hard to miss. And no, Apple is not interested in sharing its API's with anyone.

> And no, Apple is not interested in sharing its API's with anyone.

Funny how people will state ‘facts’ that match their internal perceptions, regardless of what’s been publicly stated over and over again.

Apple has released the WeatherKit API, which is privacy-first, and pretty much provides what Dark Sky did.

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Post by diebeforei485 »

soheil wrote: post #148
Drybones wrote: post #5

Upsetting about the app, but the new iOS weather app has the functionality essentially. The real gut wrencher is the darksky website going down. It’s how I check weather most of the time a no other browser weather site comes close to it in simplicity and features.

The iOS 16 beta Weather app has incredible features and down to the hour granularity even for future days.

Is this the 16.1 beta, or the 16.0 release?

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by Hel5inki »

Shank wrote: post #27
quickthrowman wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It definitely does not have the same functionality, you can only see the current temp/precip prob %/humidity/dewpoint/wind speed/etc, you can’t see the forecasted stats I listed in the iOS weather app, you can only get hour by hour temperature. I’m very disappointed that Dark Sky is going away. If Apple added in the ability to see forecasted hour by hour wind speed/humidity/dew point/etc, it’d be a decent replacement…

> I’m very disappointed that Dark Sky is going away. If Apple added in the ability to see forecasted hour by hour wind speed/humidity/dew point/etc, it’d be a decent replacement. In iOS 16 (and in macOS Ventura, which adds the Weather app), you can view hourly temperature, UV index, wind speed, precipitation, feels like, humidity, visibility, and pressure, on a graph. You can also tap and hold to view individual hour…

If Apple can give me an allergen outlook similar to Accuweather I’ll finally be able to swap. This update was quite nice, but the allergy watch has helped me proactively respond to seasonal allergies which is hard to pass up on. A more granular detail of air quality would be nice as well, but I don’t need it to switch

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by happyopossum »

D_Joni wrote: post #69

It's funny how this is posted two days after I finished my Weather web app which uses Dark Sky's free API: https://weather-dj.netlify.app/ Let's hope that in the future Apple continues to deliver the same API structure as Dark Sky did, because it will be a big shame if they did some changes or limitations to it. Although I only use this app mostly for my personal use, the effort that I've put into this would be for n…

> It's funny how this is posted two days after I finished my Weather web app which uses Dark Sky's free API

Err, dark sky announced this well over a year ago, and was acquired 2 years ago - this is not news.

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by freetime2 »

atchoo wrote: post #146
freetime2 wrote: post #120

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I agree that it's a concentration of market power. I disagree that government intervention is necessary or beneficial here.

One example should be enough to see a problem. Do you not see a problem of Apple denuding other platforms all independent applications? They've taken what... Siri, Shazam, NextVR, Dark Skies off other platforms. How would you quantify your limit if not one? They block Firefox/Opera in preference to their own, they impose undue costs on Spotify etc. I see a need for separation of pipes and content. Break up the apple…

> Do you not see a problem of Apple denuding other platforms all independent applications?

There are ~3.3 million apps on Android. So no, I do not see the possibility of Apple denuding Android of all independent apps as a realistic concern.

> How would you quantify your limit if not one?

I don’t think setting a limit on the number of companies that Apple can acquire is the correct way to frame the question. Instead I think you need to take a look at each acquisition independently and look at things like the percentage of market share they are acquiring, what alternatives exist in the market, etc. I’m fairly sure Dark Sky never had a dominant market share, and plenty of alternative weather apps exist, so I really don’t see this as an anti-trust issue.

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Post by beefman »

Folks here said the new Weather app has the same info. I upgraded to iOS 16 about a year before I normally would just to check this. And nope, it doesn't have the one feature I use Dark Sky for – the one feature no other weather app has: the ability to see what the weather was yesterday.

It's what Dark Sky calls "Time Machine". (Can't believe Apple let them use this name this long, now that I think of it.)

(I supported the original crowdfunding campaign for Dark Sky in 2011.)

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by GeekyBear »

inlined wrote: post #171
GeekyBear wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>We still do not, and never will, sell your location data to 3rd parties. They sold the whole company. If they had sold to a data hoarder like Google or Facebook, I have very little doubt that the data would have been included. Who in their right mind thinks Google wanted to buy Fitbit for anything but their data?

I’m really tired of hearing everyone suggest Google is some boogeyman trying to do something subversive to get your data. Anyone who thinks this should grab their nearest google engineer and talk about privacy controls internally. Privacy is critical to the company and every product launch has a privacy review. In one of my launches we even had to add an opt in to allow users to share data with themselves because it…

> because it crossed product boundaries

Sorry, but I still remember Google pinky swearing before Congress that it would never combine the data it had on it's users with the advertising profiles it acquired with DoubleClick.

>In today's Big Tech antitrust hearing in front of a Congressional subcommittee, representative Val Demings questioned Google CEO Sundar Pichai about the company's merger with DoubleClick.

Specifically, the way Google combined data from the advertising company -- bought in 2007 -- with Google's own data. Founder Sergey Brin had told Congress it would not combine the personal information, but the company quietly did so in 2016 anyway.

https://www.engadget.com/google-antitrust-hearing-doubleclic...

>Google’s privacy policies as of March 1, 2012 established that no combination between DoubleClick’s advertising data and Google’s personally-identifiable information would take place without the prior consent of its users, but an updated version of those policies subtly allowed the integration of both databases regardless of prior consent of its users

https://www.promarket.org/2020/08/21/why-we-should-be-carefu...

People suggest that Google is a boogeyman because they have repeatedly broken their promises.

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by aeharding »

arh68 wrote: post #28
morley wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've used the weather.gov site for the last ~5 years, and it has been great. I bookmark both the 7-day local forecast[1] and the hourly dashboard[2]. [1] https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=40.71234500000... [2] https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?w0=t&w3u=1&w5=pop&...

Along these lines, I also really like the Aviation Radar maps [1] https://aviationweather.gov/radar/plot?region=alb (feel free to change, in the top left, Type = Comp Ref, and to Loop)

Another good one - https://www.1800wxbrief.com/Website/interactiveMap

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by adamsiem »

beefman wrote: post #187

Folks here said the new Weather app has the same info. I upgraded to iOS 16 about a year before I normally would just to check this. And nope, it doesn't have the one feature I use Dark Sky for – the one feature no other weather app has: the ability to see what the weather was yesterday. It's what Dark Sky calls "Time Machine". (Can't believe Apple let them use this name this long, now that I think of it.) (I support…

I always use this! Great for assessing business activity and comparing localized weather to activity.
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