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Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by killerdhmo »

ShakataGaNai wrote: post #90
D_Joni wrote: post #69

It's funny how this is posted two days after I finished my Weather web app which uses Dark Sky's free API: https://weather-dj.netlify.app/ Let's hope that in the future Apple continues to deliver the same API structure as Dark Sky did, because it will be a big shame if they did some changes or limitations to it. Although I only use this app mostly for my personal use, the effort that I've put into this would be for n…

Apple announced the purchase of DarkSky back in 2020. The API was originally scheduled to be killed off sometime at the end of 2021 but that got extended. You also haven't been able to signup for a Dev account since May of 2020. There has been a lot of news about this which was kinda hard to miss. And no, Apple is not interested in sharing its API's with anyone.

... they announced WeatherKit https://developer.apple.com/weatherkit/

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by [deleted] »

ShakataGaNai wrote: post #90
D_Joni wrote: post #69

It's funny how this is posted two days after I finished my Weather web app which uses Dark Sky's free API: https://weather-dj.netlify.app/ Let's hope that in the future Apple continues to deliver the same API structure as Dark Sky did, because it will be a big shame if they did some changes or limitations to it. Although I only use this app mostly for my personal use, the effort that I've put into this would be for n…

Apple announced the purchase of DarkSky back in 2020. The API was originally scheduled to be killed off sometime at the end of 2021 but that got extended. You also haven't been able to signup for a Dev account since May of 2020. There has been a lot of news about this which was kinda hard to miss. And no, Apple is not interested in sharing its API's with anyone.

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Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

#104

Post by spaghettiToy »

raybb wrote: post #16

What weather app are people using on Android? I'm currently using Geometric Weather + MyRadar: https://f-droid.org/packages/wangdaye.com.geometricweather/ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acmeaom.an...

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Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

#105

Post by abduhl »

wpietri wrote: post #97
TillE wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is just asking why acquisitions happen. There are plenty of reasons, and they typically don't demonstrate monopolistic behavior, certainly not in any legal sense.

Except for the sense where it's an anti-consumer concentration of market power. Something Apple is fond of. [1] Is this particular action currently illegal? Probably not, because in the US we're in an era of extreme friendliness toward companies from anti-trust regulators. But that doesn't mean no reasonable market regulator would ever frown on acquisitions like this. [1] E.g.: https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/8/23343…

How is it anti consumer? What harm has a consumer suffered? It seems like your only answer to this is “there’s less weather apps”? If your viewpoint were the one used for antitrust then no acquisition ever would be acceptable.

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

#106

Post by atchoo »

freetime2 wrote: post #94
atchoo wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was available on IOS. Why would non-users on IOS be an argument for the power of capital to diminish other platforms?

Because even though it might dimish the experience for a relatively small number of Dark Sky users on other platforms, the move can still be a net gain for consumers as a whole due to the large number of iOS users who can now benefit from improvements to the default weather app. Dark Sky wasn't even available to purchase in my country previously. But now, thanks to this investment by Apple, I get access to a bunch of…

So you are saying that folding in a cross platform company into the platform is a platform advantage... but not a concentration of market power? Apple changed the price of Dark Sky on other platforms to infinity but on it's platform to zero.

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by GeekyBear »

hahajk wrote: post #100
GeekyBear wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The iOS weather app has the functionality, without selling your location data to data brokers, as has normally been the case with third party weather apps. >Weather apps are secretly selling your location data to the highest bidder https://thenextweb.com/news/weather-apps-are-secretly-sellin...

This looks like Dark Sky's response to that article. https://mobile.twitter.com/darkskyapp/status/108135144619558... So, not the case with Dark Sky.

>We still do not, and never will, sell your location data to 3rd parties.

They sold the whole company. If they had sold to a data hoarder like Google or Facebook, I have very little doubt that the data would have been included.

Who in their right mind thinks Google wanted to buy Fitbit for anything but their data?

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

#109

Post by daxfohl »

_emacsomancer_ wrote: post #39
raybb wrote: post #16

What weather app are people using on Android? I'm currently using Geometric Weather + MyRadar: https://f-droid.org/packages/wangdaye.com.geometricweather/ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acmeaom.an...

- wX (based on NWS data): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=joshuatee.wx / https://f-droid.org/en/packages/joshuatee.wx/ - weawow: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.weawow / https://weawow.com/

I also use weawow ... with darksky as the provider. The other providers (at least the free ones) seem far less accurate (for Seattle anyway).

I've started using willyweather for higher-fidelity UV data, and its forecasts (from NOAA) seem reasonable and I like the forecast-vs-actual graph. Though the UI requires some extra clicks to get all the info that weawow manages to get onto a single user-friendly page. (First-world problems....)

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

#110

Post by spaghettiToy »

wpietri wrote: post #97
TillE wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is just asking why acquisitions happen. There are plenty of reasons, and they typically don't demonstrate monopolistic behavior, certainly not in any legal sense.

Except for the sense where it's an anti-consumer concentration of market power. Something Apple is fond of. [1] Is this particular action currently illegal? Probably not, because in the US we're in an era of extreme friendliness toward companies from anti-trust regulators. But that doesn't mean no reasonable market regulator would ever frown on acquisitions like this. [1] E.g.: https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/8/23343…

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