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Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by rlpb »

pharmakom wrote: post #42
dqh wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really think you should have the right to disrupt the funeral of someone you don’t like?

What if the funeral is a 10 day extravaganza at tax payer expense whilst some families are choosing between eating and heating?

Since about half the country seem to want to show up, it seems reasonable and proportionate. I wouldn't have a problem with some celebrity's funeral being a huge affair either, even if I didn't care for that celebrity myself.

In case I'm misunderstood, I don't feel strongly either way about the British royalty, but I'm OK with allowing a significant proportion of the population being left alone to get on with what ceremony they want to do, given that they want to do it.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by prvc »

bawolff wrote: post #47

Im totally A-ok with arresting people disrupting a funeral. Like sessh. These are people too. Let them have a funeral, you can protest them afterwards.

I'll bet vanishingly few of the people with their hackles up over this spoke out in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church when it was in the news for their funeral protests.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by mhh__ »

dijit wrote: post #9

They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. They are being arrested for being rude about it. Was the fella on radio 4 who stated to the entire nation that ‘King Charles and his family should be put in a council house and that the Monarchy should be abolished’ arrested? No. If you are going to attend a funeral, any funeral, be it the Queen’s or anyone else’s and hurl abuse or hold up signs with obscenit…

Oh well that's all right then...

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Post by bjourne »

dijit wrote: post #9

They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. They are being arrested for being rude about it. Was the fella on radio 4 who stated to the entire nation that ‘King Charles and his family should be put in a council house and that the Monarchy should be abolished’ arrested? No. If you are going to attend a funeral, any funeral, be it the Queen’s or anyone else’s and hurl abuse or hold up signs with obscenit…

The queen was a public figure whose lavish livelihood were paid for by British tax-payers. So it seems to me that British people should have the right to celebrate her death in any way they please. Curtailing people's freedom of speech by misusing public order laws (the queen's funeral is not comparable to any normal funeral) is curtailing freedom of speech.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by krona »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #55
dijit wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You will be arrested for hurling obscenities at mourners regardless of who the dead person is. People were arrested at Margaret Thatchers funeral for the same thing. It’s not rocket science. You’re not allowed to do that.

In Oxford someone was arrested for shouting " who elected him " during the proclamation of the new king so it's not just about respecting a funeral (which is understable) or unacceptable language. But in fairness to the police there seems to be a mass fervour at the moment and they may actually be doing the hecklers a service by taking them away for their own safety...

This is the point. 'Fear or provocation of violence' is an offence since it precipitates violence, its a provocation that 'might cause a reasonable individual to lose self control', which would be quite dreadful!

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Post by munk-a »

defen wrote: post #97
KptMarchewa wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once again, Americans are proud of the fact they can protest at funerals.

The alternative is that you can be arrested for saying something mean at a funeral. I prefer the American system.

I don't - my father's funeral is literally two weeks away. Some relatives that my mother doesn't get along with at all aren't invited - they've never been particularly close and it'll be healthier for everyone if they don't stir shit in a time of healing.

This isn't a case of protestors being repeatedly ignored - the public discussion about the monarchy is unfolding in most media outlets right now and other forms of protest are still quite available.

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Post by cies »

klyrs wrote: post #48
AnimalMuppet wrote: post #3

For all its faults, I love the US. I can go downtown with a sign that says "Not my president", and I may get some cheers, may get some boos. What I won't get is arrested. This is true no matter who is president. Now, if I were saying this about President Harris, say, when she came to visit Biden's body while it was lying in state, that would be deplorable taste. It would be worse if my sign criticized Biden while his…

> I can go downtown with a sign that says "Not my president", Try that at the next ex-President's funeral.

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Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by pera »

dijit wrote: post #9

They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. They are being arrested for being rude about it. Was the fella on radio 4 who stated to the entire nation that ‘King Charles and his family should be put in a council house and that the Monarchy should be abolished’ arrested? No. If you are going to attend a funeral, any funeral, be it the Queen’s or anyone else’s and hurl abuse or hold up signs with obscenit…

Note that the arrests happened during the proclamation ceremony of the new king. The funeral will be next Monday.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by dTal »

gambiting wrote: post #94
pharmakom wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if the funeral is a 10 day extravaganza at tax payer expense whilst some families are choosing between eating and heating?

I think we're reaching some insane point in this discussion when a funeral of one of the most well known people in the world, where leaders of literally every major superpower are coming over to pay their respects is called an extravaganza.

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Post by mhh__ »

bawolff wrote: post #47

Im totally A-ok with arresting people disrupting a funeral. Like sessh. These are people too. Let them have a funeral, you can protest them afterwards.

This "funeral" is basically shutting down lots of the country for a week.
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