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Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Do you really think you should have the right to disrupt the funeral of someone you don’t like?

USA has the famous Phelps family, a fake religion who attack funerals and then sue the victims for fighting back, and win.

This happens less so now that large numbers of bikers show up each time they try and stand directly in front of them, holding large flags to block their signs.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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For all its faults, I love the US. I can go downtown with a sign that says "Not my president", and I may get some cheers, may get some boos. What I won't get is arrested. This is true no matter who is president. Now, if I were saying this about President Harris, say, when she came to visit Biden's body while it was lying in state, that would be deplorable taste. It would be worse if my sign criticized Biden while his…

> It's not grounds for arrest, though... in the US

Are you sure? It's not absolutely certain.

https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1112/funeral-pr...

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Do you really think you should have the right to disrupt the funeral of someone you don’t like?

USA has the famous Phelps family, a fake religion who attack funerals and then sue the victims for fighting back, and win.

So in your view, the Phelps family is morally right?

If not, why did you respond with this to a question about is it morally right to protest at a funeral?

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You will be arrested for hurling obscenities at mourners regardless of who the dead person is. People were arrested at Margaret Thatchers funeral for the same thing. It’s not rocket science. You’re not allowed to do that.

In the United States, with certain limits [1], one can picket funerals and be massively disrespectful. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church#Laws_l...

Regardless of the legalities, it's not a behaviour anyone should be proud of.

If shitting in the street were legal would you complain when people passed a law to stop your bad behaviour?

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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> They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. > They are being arrested for being rude about it. Got it. Arrested for poor taste. Hard to see the justification for that in a democracy?

They arrested a person for making a video of his dog doing nazi salutes. It's not that the royal family is singularly fragile about being upset by other peoples' expression, the whole of the UK is like that.

> They arrested a person for making a video of his dog doing nazi salutes. It's not that the royal family is singularly fragile about being upset by other peoples' expression, the whole of the UK is like that.

And yet at the same time one of the biggest movies in the cinema was a Nazi spoof comedy with jokes in far poorer taste. But the movie producers have money.

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You will be arrested for hurling obscenities at mourners regardless of who the dead person is. People were arrested at Margaret Thatchers funeral for the same thing. It’s not rocket science. You’re not allowed to do that.

In the United States, with certain limits [1], one can picket funerals and be massively disrespectful. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church#Laws_l...

That's hardly something to be proud of. God, I hate ideology.

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For all its faults, I love the US. I can go downtown with a sign that says "Not my president", and I may get some cheers, may get some boos. What I won't get is arrested. This is true no matter who is president. Now, if I were saying this about President Harris, say, when she came to visit Biden's body while it was lying in state, that would be deplorable taste. It would be worse if my sign criticized Biden while his…

> What I won't get is arrested. You must have missed the summer of love that we had two years ago, when crowds of protesters were regularly beaten and gassed, and often arrested (Charges would, of course, get dropped, because it's not actually illegal to protest.) But you are correct, it's possible to protest the British monarchy as much as you want in the US, with next to consequences. :)

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Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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It's not being arrested for poor taste. They're being arrested for their actions, not their beliefs. Is there some democracy somewhere which doesn't have a public nuisance/breaching the peace style law?

Let's just say that the hecklers have been arrested much, much faster (pretty much instantly, apparently) than the "eco-activists" who recently blocked roads, petrol stations, even motorways...

I think we agree that all disruptive assholes should be arrested quickly.

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They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. They are being arrested for being rude about it. Was the fella on radio 4 who stated to the entire nation that ‘King Charles and his family should be put in a council house and that the Monarchy should be abolished’ arrested? No. If you are going to attend a funeral, any funeral, be it the Queen’s or anyone else’s and hurl abuse or hold up signs with obscenit…

True of the first two examples, but:

> in London, a woman was led away by four uniformed officers on Monday after holding up a sign reading "Not my king" — which has become a trending hashtag — near Westminster Hall.

If you count that as rude, you're essentially counting any dissent as rude, no?

Edit: there's an even better example, of a man who was nowhere near any funerary rites, calling out "who elected him" at the proclamation of Charles' ascension.

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