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Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Post by flatiron »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #20
tedivm wrote: post #9

The amount of research over last decade has been huge, even outside of this. It used to be the only way companies could research cannabis was by getting really crappy samples from a government grow house, but with legalization the supply of research samples and the quality of researchers willing to work on it has grown considerably. This is a direct safety issue. I used to moderator one of the bigger cannabis subredd…

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I think a lot of people think it’s “safe” is it’s been used for thousands of years and has relatively well tolerated. It’s nice to get more specific info like this though.

Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Post by Bud »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #20
tedivm wrote: post #9

The amount of research over last decade has been huge, even outside of this. It used to be the only way companies could research cannabis was by getting really crappy samples from a government grow house, but with legalization the supply of research samples and the quality of researchers willing to work on it has grown considerably. This is a direct safety issue. I used to moderator one of the bigger cannabis subredd…

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Why are you intentionally misrepresenting the very clear comment you are responding to?

Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Post by endisneigh »

dekken_ wrote: post #46
endisneigh wrote: post #16

Weed is bad for you, what a shocker. Like all drugs you have to weigh the positive effects with the negative. Generally it's bad to do most rec drugs if pregnant or around kids.

Water is bad for you in sufficient quantities.

what does water have to do with anything?

Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

Bud wrote: post #47
Godel_unicode wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fat includes transfat. This back-and-forth does an excellent job of underlining GPs point about those being complex subjects that require study and nuanced explanation.

It's not that complex, actually. The vast majority of fats, all the natural ones, basically, are fine. Healthy, even. The weirdass plastic fats created by injecting hydrogen into vegetable oil are not fine. Done! Was that really so nuanced? No. It was not.

Try explaining to an average person how they can identify which food products at the supermarket have noble-gas-fat-products in them and which don't.

Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

hollywood_court wrote: post #43
darth_avocado wrote: post #12

I’m glad this research is being done. I don’t use cannabis, but I also don’t frown upon it. However some of the conversations on the use of cannabis recently have changed from “it’s a drug, but it isn’t that bad” to “it is completely harmless”. Which in my opinion is very dangerous and could harm entire populations before we have enough research. In my opinion, it should be considered similar category as alcohol, cig…

I agreed with all of that except for fat. You need fat. You don’t need any of the others.

I need alcohol to be sociable.

Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Post by Bud »

withinboredom wrote: post #34
tedivm wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the real problem- and something I'm hoping more research can help with- is that marijuana is a medicine for a lot of people. It prevents seizures, reduces or stops migraines, and (this one is really important considering the context) reduces nausea. Sometimes people have to balance between a bunch of crappy options. This isn't always the case, of course, but it's hard to judge what someone is going through fr…

Yes, in moderation, weed is probably harmless and maybe good for you. Getting high (aka, poisoning yourself), not so much.

Why do you assume that any and all forms of getting high involve poisoning?

Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Post by jazzyjackson »

uptownfunk wrote: post #14

Could someone help me understand the mechanism of action that triggers mental problems from cannabis consumption? I recall it being a trigger for psychosis in some cases.

only spitballing, but everyone has intrusive thoughts, and we tune them out to various degrees

weed can be a kind of thought dis-inhibitor, and can take any thought that crosses your mind and make it the most important thought you've ever had (see also: thinking your stoned ideas are revolutionary inventions, until you sober up and realize you've re-invented the tea kettle)

Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Post by ok_dad »

irrational wrote: post #50
darth_avocado wrote: post #12

I’m glad this research is being done. I don’t use cannabis, but I also don’t frown upon it. However some of the conversations on the use of cannabis recently have changed from “it’s a drug, but it isn’t that bad” to “it is completely harmless”. Which in my opinion is very dangerous and could harm entire populations before we have enough research. In my opinion, it should be considered similar category as alcohol, cig…

It’s still a DUI if you drive on it. The week after it was legalized in my state, a person managed to put their car through the second story of a home. The toxicology report showed the only thing in their system was cannabis.

Cannibis can be in your system for weeks or months, so take the authority reports that the accident was caused by cannabis intoxication with a grain of salt, and assume that absent other evidence it might be that the user in this case wasn’t high at the time.

I’m not saying this to say no accidents has been caused by cannibis, but that there’s currently no way to tell current level of cannabis intoxication. Authorities will use the lack of nuance in their favor.

Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Post by dekken_ »

endisneigh wrote: post #53
dekken_ wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Water is bad for you in sufficient quantities.

what does water have to do with anything?

The point is that weed isn't just bad for you, it depends on your condition and the dosage.

Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Post by ejb999 »

scythe wrote: post #41
darth_avocado wrote: post #12

I’m glad this research is being done. I don’t use cannabis, but I also don’t frown upon it. However some of the conversations on the use of cannabis recently have changed from “it’s a drug, but it isn’t that bad” to “it is completely harmless”. Which in my opinion is very dangerous and could harm entire populations before we have enough research. In my opinion, it should be considered similar category as alcohol, cig…

The primary positive effect of cannabis in the general population is probably that it tends to interfere with alcohol consumption, due to excessive sedation. This probably explains the lack of negative population-level effects of cannabis legalization. The most concerning effect of cannabis is its tendency to increase heart rate. Quite a bit of research is available on the effects of cannabis use — the problem is tha…

>>the problem is that people don't read it.

More likely, they probably can't wade thru the noise to find it - search cannabis and health and be prepared to search thru hundreds, if not ten's of thousands of pages of propaganda claiming that it is nothing but good for almost any health condition you have - real or imagined.

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