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Huh? Access to flagging is not given to a "small fraction" of users. You only need to make a few good submissions or comments to get it. Frustratingly I can't get a definitive answer, but its on the order of few hundred karma points at most.
The problem with the system isn't the oppressive results it might produce, the problem lies within the system itself and its innate bias to create oppression. Complacency isn't an excuse, it's an aggravating circumstance. Academia especially should try to get as close as possibe to a merit-based system, where acception and further progression are determined on past grades, not on skin color, gender, religion and economic status.
Another problem that noone seems to be worried about is the mass collection of personal data and the processing thereof. How can I trust discussing my faith, ethnicity and finances with a for-profit institution, when (especially under US jurisdiction) I have little to no control of how that data gets processed, sorted and monetized?
I think these institutions believe that more diversity ----> more inclusivity and less racism. How would a racist indian national deeply entrenched in caste culture help my company be less racist? How would an asian supremacist laotian increase the workplace's acceptance? If you want a place of tolerance then it should be populated by tolerant people. Throwing together males and females with a random sample of skin c…
To be fair, there are many people from traditionally chauvinistic groups who despise the very chauvinism they live in. Many of them may be intelligent and productive people. Dismissing each and every individual because of the group is the root of discrimination.
Some attempts at diversity may go too far - tolerating intolerant people just because "they grew up in different environment" - leading to the paradox of tolerance [0]. I've read news [1] about the very phenomenon.
The fact is - tolerance, diversity, open-mindedness - those are all values, and they need to be enforced. In order to keep a tolerant society, you must show the door to anyone who disagrees with that philosophy. The same way you need to lock up criminals to keep an ordered society from devolving into chaos.
But ultimately, in order to have a truly tolerant society, each and every member of it must be evaluated as an individual.
It could be that the people do care about the values listed, but don't know an effective way to guarantee them, and that existing diversity statements are a stopgap measure until something better is figured out. But no, let's jump directly to "Conclusion: By and large, they don’t care about diversity. They’re just lying, in a really transparent way, because they think it gives them a patina of legal legitimacy." Or..…
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How wide spread is this requirement? I've never heard about it before. >schools are requiring “Diversity Statements” as a condition for new hires Is this like when you do a self performance review and you just throw in a bunch of common phrases / text?
It could be that the people do care about the values listed, but don't know an effective way to guarantee them, and that existing diversity statements are a stopgap measure until something better is figured out. But no, let's jump directly to "Conclusion: By and large, they don’t care about diversity. They’re just lying, in a really transparent way, because they think it gives them a patina of legal legitimacy." Or..…
I agree, the idea that they don't care and go to all this work seems absurd. Seems more likely they're just bad advocates / come up with bad policies for ideas they like. THAT does not surprise me the least. The amount of "If you get what you want here, I don't think that gets you any closer to your goal, in fact it might do the opposite." situations is pretty high out there.
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> there's a serious diversity problem with the candidate pool itself. So there's too many white men. How is this impacting performance? Or do you just want to check some boxes and be able to say "we've got X% of engineers who aren't white men, look at how diverse we are!"
It's not possible to measure a counterfactual where teams at a given company just suddenly become diverse. But, it is pretty well known that there are some advantages to diversity in the workplace. Take, for instance, this reasonably well source article which lists 10 advantages: https://www.talentlyft.com/en/blog/article/244/top-10-benefi... Oh, and it's not just white men. East Asians and those from the Indian subc…