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Who cares about diversity?
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#42It could be that the people do care about the values listed, but don't know an effective way to guarantee them, and that existing diversity statements are a stopgap measure until something better is figured out. But no, let's jump directly to "Conclusion: By and large, they don’t care about diversity. They’re just lying, in a really transparent way, because they think it gives them a patina of legal legitimacy." Or..…
I agree, the idea that they don't care and go to all this work seems absurd.
Seems more likely they're just bad advocates / come up with bad policies for ideas they like. THAT does not surprise me the least. The amount of "If you get what you want here, I don't think that gets you any closer to your goal, in fact it might do the opposite." situations is pretty high out there.
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Alternate perspective: it will be flagged down because HN's community has continually proven incapable of having discussions like this without it turning into a shouting match. It's already happening.
To be fair this article doesn't exactly have a mature start.
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Huh? Access to flagging is not given to a "small fraction" of users. You only need to make a few good submissions or comments to get it. Frustratingly I can't get a definitive answer, but its on the order of few hundred karma points at most.
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Of all the things to worry about I don't think "diversity" and all the song and dance is really enjoyed by the typical large corporation folks who are actually in charge enough to make this some kind of conspiracy. That's too uncharacteristic and too many steps to make sense to me.
Let alone the fact that these diversity panels / oversight has caused plenty an issue at large corporations and PR messes. I don't think anyone at big corp wants any part of that just to in theory put pressure on someone else.
Actual regulations and laws are plenty effective on keeping down competition in some situations. Smaller corporations rarely see any real pressure diversity wise. There might be some examples but generally smaller orgs fly under the radar of just about everything.
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#46It could be that the people do care about the values listed, but don't know an effective way to guarantee them, and that existing diversity statements are a stopgap measure until something better is figured out. But no, let's jump directly to "Conclusion: By and large, they don’t care about diversity. They’re just lying, in a really transparent way, because they think it gives them a patina of legal legitimacy." Or..…
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I bet there are many here on HN who would love to "go all out" on the subject.
And then there are people who just downvote and flag everything they disagree with.
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#48Going on a tangent I am tired of diversity theater at most companies. You know how I know you don't really care? I look at your C level (excluding Chief Diversity Officer) and you board.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Years and breadth/depth of experience is far from everything, but it's also far from nothing. I'd sort of expect the CxOs at most major companies to be ~25-40 years into their career. I'd therefore expect them to look a lot like the white collar workforce new entrants looked in 1982-1997.
Are you for real largest SV companies can't find a single "diverse" board member or C level but spend 100s of millions evangelizing how they care about diversity and on employee diversity training?
Is the hiring task
SELECT TOP 1 * FROM Candidates WHERE DIVERSE = 1 ORDER BY Candidate_Value_All_Things_Considered DESC
SELECT TOP 1 * FROM Candidates ORDER BY Candidate_Value_All_Things_Considered DESC
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No, but by having even-handed and rational conversations we can find the best outcome and hopefully have small influence in making society incrementally better.