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Online art communities begin banning AI-generated images

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Re: Online art communities begin banning AI-generated images

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Post by diydsp »

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #5

> Left unchecked, it’s not hard to imagine AI art crowding out illustrations that took days or weeks for someone to make. This reminds me of what someone from the 1800's would say: "If left unchecked, it is not hard to imagine photography crowding out paintings that took days or weeks for someone to make." Or several thousand years ago when the pottery wheel was invented. Or when humans learned to cast metals instead…

> "If left unchecked, it is not hard to imagine photography crowding out paintings that took days or weeks for someone to make."

Today photography and illustration are segregated. Which is what these artist communities are establishing.

Re: Online art communities begin banning AI-generated images

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Post by SicSemperUranus »

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #5

> Left unchecked, it’s not hard to imagine AI art crowding out illustrations that took days or weeks for someone to make. This reminds me of what someone from the 1800's would say: "If left unchecked, it is not hard to imagine photography crowding out paintings that took days or weeks for someone to make." Or several thousand years ago when the pottery wheel was invented. Or when humans learned to cast metals instead…

It depends what the point is. You wouldn't let a motorcycle participate in a horse race. I think there's a place for AI art and it's fine if "manual art" remains the same. The difference can be arbitrary at times, but art often is.

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Post by imranq »

I agree that images only through AI should be removed from art sites.

The issue with AI art is that the only human contribution in those pieces is the creation of the prompt and the curation of the final image. Without sensory and experiential inputs of its own, AI can only interpolate between real images and styles. So an AI generated image doesn't add much artistic value since its not expressing any new deep truth or factual understanding of the real world.

Well isn't all art just a derivative of another piece? The issue with that statement is that art is fundamentally a communication from a human artist to a human viewer. At the level of AI prompt creation and curation, you act more like an art gallery owner rather than an artist, which doesn't communicate artistic values in the same way as does an original piece derived from the experiences, history, and skill of a human artist.

Dall-E 2, Stable Diffusion, should be used for inspiration and helping with minor elements of a piece, but someone passing off an AI generated image as part of their portfolio is disingenuous at best

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #5

> Left unchecked, it’s not hard to imagine AI art crowding out illustrations that took days or weeks for someone to make. This reminds me of what someone from the 1800's would say: "If left unchecked, it is not hard to imagine photography crowding out paintings that took days or weeks for someone to make." Or several thousand years ago when the pottery wheel was invented. Or when humans learned to cast metals instead…

This reminds me of what someone from the 8 years from now will say

if this is left unchecked I also will be out of a job like those useless artists all were.

Re: Online art communities begin banning AI-generated images

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Post by Jevon23 »

Janicc wrote: post #6

It's going to be interesting to see how this is going to get enforced in the likely future in which AI art becomes in every way indistinguishable from human art.

They can just focus on obvious cases: people that upload new images at an astounding rate, people who forget to remove the AI watermarks, and people who simply admit to using AI. No need to turn it into a witch hunt where you accuse everyone of using AI.

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Post by Kiro »

imranq wrote: post #13

I agree that images only through AI should be removed from art sites. The issue with AI art is that the only human contribution in those pieces is the creation of the prompt and the curation of the final image. Without sensory and experiential inputs of its own, AI can only interpolate between real images and styles. So an AI generated image doesn't add much artistic value since its not expressing any new deep truth…

And how do you define artistic value? If you don't even know if an image is generated by an AI or not, what is lost?

Re: Online art communities begin banning AI-generated images

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Post by hericium »

The problem I see here is that ML-generated art may be based on real art.

While human painter may repeat style of fragments of work of other artist as homage, computer software does it more as plagiarism.

This isn't much different than issues surrounding Microsoft GitHub Copilot.

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