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Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Long story short: the next big thing is milking/squeezing the existing customers through services. I guess the next next big thing would be charging customers for existing/free features(i.e pay more for privacy, no more on-device storage etc)

Is it still milking if customers are paying willingly?

Yes. I guess you have never been near a dairy farm at milking time and seen the cows queue up, or hear the noise they make if they are not milked.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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The moment that apple announced "privacy" as their focus I knew this was going to happen. They don't actually care about user privacy, but rather want exclusive rights to all of your data so that they can sell it for a markup. If you want to sell targeted ads to anyone using an Apple device, you'll have to let Apple do the targeting (and take their cut). Get customers locked into the apple ecosystem, "protect" them f…

Isn't it the business model of Google that you are describing in some way instead ?

"We don't sell or share your data so we can be the only ones who have access to it for advertising purposes"

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Ads are the next big thing for Apple. You can see it in their job postings and their attempts at increasing ad real estate across their products.

I hope they go down that route and get utterly demolished by the courts for disabling the competition in favor of their own ad network.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gotta love HN... always acting like Apple is holding a gun to consumers heads.

Realistically (and I am not singling out Apple here), we are more and more captive of an ecosystem. My Android phone is needed to login to most online service through 2FA, I can pay with it, have my calendar and emails on it. Losing my phone at this point is worse than losing my wallet and Apple is pushing for even tighter integrations with their customer's life which will ultimately centralize all that information.

>Realistically (and I am not singling out Apple here), we are more and more captive of an ecosystem.

Yes, we definitely are. But I am not so sure that is a bad thing? And it's nothing new... how many businesses had their entire operations tied to Blackberry, Microsoft, Lotus, etc. for so long? The market might be a little slow, but it's not stupid.

I personally like Apple products and services. I like the integration. I like that I don't have to go out and find third party apps for certain things and hope for the best.

> Losing my phone at this point is worse than losing my wallet and Apple is pushing for even tighter integrations with their customer's life which will ultimately centralize all that information.

The great thing about this is a replacement phone can be loaded almost instantaneously with all your info again. How long would it take to have every credit card company and the DMV send you replacements?

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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The moment that apple announced "privacy" as their focus I knew this was going to happen. They don't actually care about user privacy, but rather want exclusive rights to all of your data so that they can sell it for a markup. If you want to sell targeted ads to anyone using an Apple device, you'll have to let Apple do the targeting (and take their cut). Get customers locked into the apple ecosystem, "protect" them f…

This is absolute nonsense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPogdNafgic

Apple has the led the conversation on privacy far before anyone else was. I remember them get vilified from sharing their stance 10 years ago.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Ads are the next big thing for Apple. You can see it in their job postings and their attempts at increasing ad real estate across their products.

I hope they go down that route and get utterly demolished by the courts for disabling the competition in favor of their own ad network.

Not possible without being a monopoly.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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The moment that apple announced "privacy" as their focus I knew this was going to happen. They don't actually care about user privacy, but rather want exclusive rights to all of your data so that they can sell it for a markup. If you want to sell targeted ads to anyone using an Apple device, you'll have to let Apple do the targeting (and take their cut). Get customers locked into the apple ecosystem, "protect" them f…

> so that they can sell it for a markup

If they start selling your data, they'll quickly eliminate the very market share that gives them such power. And why would they want to give up that data anyway? Better to use it themselves. A lot of people will accept the data collection as long as it doesn't go to third-party companies, we have ample evidence for that already.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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> The unacknowledged Apple Car (the “Titan” project), Augmented Reality (AR) devices, and forays into the healthcare market, none of which is a feasible candidate

So wrong. PDAs were replaced by smartphones. Smartphones will be replaced by AR glasses. It is the next big thing hardware-wise. Many new services will be built upon glasses and watches, and many will be health related. You'll still buy a phone - it'll have the battery and the supercomputer powering the other two. I doubt that it will even have a display.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Ads are the next big thing for Apple. You can see it in their job postings and their attempts at increasing ad real estate across their products.

I hope they go down that route and get utterly demolished by the courts for disabling the competition in favor of their own ad network.

It never happened in a decade of App Store. Why would it happen with an ad network?

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The moment that apple announced "privacy" as their focus I knew this was going to happen. They don't actually care about user privacy, but rather want exclusive rights to all of your data so that they can sell it for a markup. If you want to sell targeted ads to anyone using an Apple device, you'll have to let Apple do the targeting (and take their cut). Get customers locked into the apple ecosystem, "protect" them f…

Isn't it the business model of Google that you are describing in some way instead ? "We don't sell or share your data so we can be the only ones who have access to it for advertising purposes"

Correct, and Google makes gigantic fuckloads of money doing that. It's no wonder Apple wants to do it as well. Apple having direct hardware access and aggressively locking in their customers makes this an extra degree worse for the consumer/better for Apple. At least with Google, it's easier to stop using it.
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