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Antigua and Barbuda may vote to remove King Charles III as its head of state

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Re: Antigua and Barbuda may vote to remove King Charles III as its head of state

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Except our new King has previously taken money from Saudis and supports the WEF, so they've already lost that trust.

I don’t think you have the right to speak for the British people. Neither do I. Let’s see.

I'm British, I want them gone. I'm not under any illusions that we have a meritocratic society but while we have a hereditary bloody monarchy I honestly feel somewhat gaslit whenever anyone claims we do (and they do claim that).

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I don't really understand how this whole monarchy thing is really big news. The monarch has mostly a ceremonial role and would see the door as soon it's trying to project power over the so called realms including the home country(i.e UK).

It's good to hear it at the end of the news but definitly not frontpage news.

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> explain themselves and answer for their actions Is that really what happens, though? And if so, what if the monarch isn't satisfied with the answer?

They get to tell them so. I don’t think a holder of sovereignty has to have active power. Weee human beings. Symbolic power matters. If it’s ever not enough, we’ll find another way.

Perhaps I'm either too cynical or too naive, but I can't imagine someone like Boris Johnson being even slightly fazed by it. Having to stand in a room once a week for a couple of hours being disapproved at is nothing to someone that's been through the public school system and modern politics.

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As I Canadian I would strongly support removing the English monarchy as our head of state. I hope other countries do so as well.

Not having a President is reason #1 to keep a constitutional monarch. The constitutional monarch is a figurehead without much of a day to day role, but who ensures that the demagogue we elect is not at the pinnacle of the political hierarchy. That's more important than most people understand. A prime minister is always aware of the limits of the role.

Everyone assumes that a republic would result in the US system with a strong executive.

Ireland is a much better model that would largely keep things as is, by replacing the Governor General with a ceremonial presidential figurehead.

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I think the fact that our (Britain’s) prime minister has to go to someone else, someone well travelled with extensive contact with leaders around the world, ideally who’s seen prime ministers come and go, and explain themselves and answer for their actions is an incredibly good thing. If we ever end up with a head of state that loses the trust of the people, then fine. On that day let’s ditch the monarchy. If it’s no…

Except our new King has previously taken money from Saudis and supports the WEF, so they've already lost that trust.

I would like to point that the Spanish ex-monarch practically _betrayed_ Spain to the Saudis (he's currently self-exiled there) and he still has a non-negligible amount of support in the population.

I find "support of a monarchy" an indefensible position. Bonus points if your only argument is "well the current monarch is kind of nice and therefore we're not in a hurry to remove him" because that's literally one rotten apple away of exploding in your face (see Spain) and by then it's likely too late.

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As a fellow Canadian, I genuinely ask 'why'? I'm neither in favour or opposed to removing the monarchy but I'm wondering why we would? Is our country being held back in some way from having the monarchy? Is it just because of the cost, the pomp and circumstance? I suspect there are benefits to having the monarchy as head of state, what happens when we lose them? I'd love to see Jann Arden on the one dollar coin, but…

I suspect the moment Canada loses protection of the King is the moment the US invades. Some say we already have ...

> I suspect the moment Canada loses protection of the King is the moment the US invades.

Lol. No offense to the memory of Queen Liz, but she could not have done a thing had the US decided to do something stupid like that. That said, just the notion is preposterous. The US would have lost much more than the Queen’s approbation, in the grand scheme of things.

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I'd rather have a monarchy than a president. I live in a country where we have a PM and president too which is elected by the parliament (which means it's just another random career politician so it might as well be Joe from the corner shop). At least to me European constitutional monarchy always symbolized stable democracy. There is a reason you find them in the rich western European countries like Denmark, Sweden, Norway, the UK, Belgium, the Netherlands etc.

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Lets take a look at what the British people think so far: https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/156892329675376230...

Scottish people.

Considering they recently publicly decided to be British, they're about as British as you can be.

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Unelected head of states are a slap in the face of equality.

Not necessarily. You could choose them by lot and limit their terms. That would make for a fun night of TV.... Who will be Canada's next monarch? Find out tonight on CBC.

>You could choose them by lot and limit their terms.

That is, by definition, not a monarchy

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Lets take a look at what the British people think so far: https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/156892329675376230...

Scottish people.

Scots aren’t British? That’s great news, I’m gonna go update my passport!
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