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Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by CodeWriter23 »

userbinator wrote: post #142
CodeWriter23 wrote: post #128

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It's from The Braille Institute. They ARE the standard when it comes to dealing with vision challenges / vision loss.

Ironically those who need Braille are also unlikely to care how readable a font is.

The Braille Institute provides all kinds of assistance to partial- and non-sighted individuals. Not limited to the kinesthetic alphabet known as “Braille”. For example, teaching echolocation (yes, for humans) and how to use a cane to navigate safely.

This font is an example of how the institute helps the partially-sighted, like for example, people with glaucoma or macular degeneration.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by duskwuff »

drekipus wrote: post #150
JasonFruit wrote: post #135

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Sometimes now this is because of supply problems that make a single, consistent menu embarrassing to the business: nobody wants to have to say, "I'm sorry; we're out of salmon and eggplant, and we haven't had coconut milk for a week. Can I offer the three of you something else?" An electronic menu can be changed immediately and at practically no cost.

This sounds like over estimating a lot of restaurants ability to handle electronic menus. I don't think I've seen that functionality in many restaurants at all. There is always a cost in updating the menu.

A case in point:

https://www.sixteen-nine.net/2019/08/15/paper-and-tape-are-n...

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by Zak »

dotancohen wrote: post #124
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #118

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> I swear to God this f*ing industry. this again. Developers and any publisher should test their stuff with ad blockers enabled.

Why? They test in default configurations. As someone who changes many, many default settings, I don't expect developers to test in every possible combination of non-default settings, browser extensions, atypical devices, text zoom settings, etc.

Your website breaking while someone is actively trying to spend money on it is very very bad. It means someone who was definitely willing to pay you is not paying you. Ecommerce companies spend a lot of money on optimizations intended to keep users from abandoning the checkout process. Single-digit percentage improvements result in large increases in revenue. Ensuring the checkout actually functions is about the least a site can do to ensure users don't abandon the process.

A quick web search suggests somewhere between 25% and 45% of web users block ads in some way in 2022, depending on who, where, and how you ask.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by jdknezek »

GuB-42 wrote: post #136

With a few tweaks (monospaced variant), it could make a great coding font. Coding fonts have essentially the same goal: make similar looking characters different: 1liI|, 0O, etc... Code naturally strains our visual acuity: we want to see as much as possible, it means that we may use a smaller font size than we would find comfortable reading text with. Single letter, punctuation, etc... can be really important, in reg…

I made my best attempt at this. I made custom Iosevka[1] builds that use the letter shapes from this font. I call it Hypersevka, and the build plans are available at [2].

[1] https://typeof.net/Iosevka/ [2] https://github.com/jdknezek/Iosevka/blob/jdk/private-build-p...

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by SamBam »

danuker wrote: post #139
balefrost wrote: post #91

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The EULA is giving you permission to e.g. copy and modify the font with certain restrictions (e.g. include the license text if you distribute it). In that regard, it's not terribly dissimilar in spirit from an open source software license.

Why is it not an actual open source license? Perhaps CC-By or something?

CC-By would require attributing on any page you use it on, right?

Their license simply says to include the license if you re-distribute the font.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by kondro »

awoooo wrote: post #10

Maybe opticians should use this as their eyesight testing font. If they don't already.

One of the goals of eyesight testing fonts is to make it difficult to distinguish between certain letter shapes unless your vision is good enough to see them.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by stjohnswarts »

OneLeggedCat wrote: post #12

I like this idea, but when I go to the web page... > Download the Font… and change the world! By downloading, installing and/or using the font software, you confirm that you have read and agree to be bound by the terms of this End-User License Agreement... Sigh. I guess I need to read that EULA. Anyway, clicking on that then downloads a pdf rather than a nice link to some web page text. Sigh. So then anyway, trying t…

I don't know dude I clicked on it and it just opened in a new tab? I don't think it gets much easier.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by stjohnswarts »

soco wrote: post #23
cyral wrote: post #20

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Not sure why it wouldn't open for you, but it opens fine in Chrome on Mac. I thought it would be some ridiculous 50 page legalese but it's actually only 1.5 pages long. it's basically a license similar to what you'd see on a Github repo.

But why PDF at all? Is there a reason to put the online license in a PDF? Or any other places, like the restaurant menus? is there anybody who wants/needs to print the license or the restaurant menu?

99% of the browsers in use have a built in pdf reader these days.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by stjohnswarts »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #87
soco wrote: post #23

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But why PDF at all? Is there a reason to put the online license in a PDF? Or any other places, like the restaurant menus? is there anybody who wants/needs to print the license or the restaurant menu?

I really hate those restaurants that only have QR codes on the table for menus. A restaurant is for eating and talking, not for messing around with my phone. I avoid those now. During Covid there was a slight point (though it was pretty soon proven that surface transmission was so minor a factor not to warrant such actions). But now we should just go back to normal menus.

i actually prefer it. I've never been to one here in Austin that doesn't have a paper menu if you ask tho. I much prefer handling my filthy, but personally contaminated phone, to menus that a ton of other people have handled after rubbing their eyes and noses.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by eru »

SamBam wrote: post #195
danuker wrote: post #139

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Why is it not an actual open source license? Perhaps CC-By or something?

CC-By would require attributing on any page you use it on, right? Their license simply says to include the license if you re-distribute the font.

The distinction is more between an EULA vs one of the common open source licenses.
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