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John C. Mather: “There is no first moment of time” (2017)

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> There’s another way in which the giant firecracker idea misleads us, because even scientists often talk about the “universe springing into existence.” Well, it didn’t, as far as we can tell. The opposite is true. There is no first moment of time, just as there is no smallest positive number. In physics we have equations and laws of nature that describe how one situation changes into another, but we have no equations that show how true nothingness turns into somethingness. So, since the universe did not spring into existence, it has always existed, though perhaps not in its current form.

Or the equations are only approximations that hold under certain conditions?

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Interesting stuff, can someone recommend a good book that deals more into this subject? Preferably a book that’s entertaining to read rather than engrossed in mathematics

The Order of Time by Carlo Rovelli is accessible to all (no math)

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Interesting stuff, can someone recommend a good book that deals more into this subject? Preferably a book that’s entertaining to read rather than engrossed in mathematics

The Order of Time by Carlo Rovelli is accessible to all (no math)

On a related topic, "The magic furnace" delves into the origin of the elements.

Re: John C. Mather: “There is no first moment of time” (2017)

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> There’s another way in which the giant firecracker idea misleads us, because even scientists often talk about the “universe springing into existence.” Well, it didn’t, as far as we can tell. The opposite is true. There is no first moment of time, just as there is no smallest positive number. In physics we have equations and laws of nature that describe how one situation changes into another, but we have no equation…

Yeah this is kind of a laughable position in the article. I don’t mean the conclusion, which might be right, but the method. The laws of physics as we know them are just reflections of … nothing more than what we know. The fact that we have no account of what came before the big bang is not evidence of anything except that we don’t know, especially when a very plausible theory is that what came before is totally different in kind than what came after.

Being a good scientist doesn’t mean you’re a good philosopher.

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