Analysis Shows 'Quiet Fleecing' of US Workers–Not Quiet Quitting

Re: Analysis Shows 'Quiet Fleecing' of US Workers–Not Quiet Quitting–Is Real Problem

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Post by janef0421 » Sun, Sep 11, 2022, 9:43 PM UTC

timoth3y wrote: post #7

The general acceptance of the term "Quiet Quitting" tells us quite a bit about how we currently view the relationship between labor and employer. Somehow we have accepted the idea that showing up when you are supposed to and doing the tasks you are required to is not "doing your job" but rather "quiet quitting". It does not seem that these people are goldbricking or maliciously complying or really doing anything wron…

I don't think "Quiet Quitting" even means doing the bare minimum. One could be performing their job duties comprehensively and to a high standard within their contracted hours, and that seems to be considered "Quiet Quitting" because they aren't doing overtime working on tasks outside their job description.

Re: Analysis Shows 'Quiet Fleecing' of US Workers–Not Quiet Quitting–Is Real Problem

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Post by janef0421 » Sun, Sep 11, 2022, 9:48 PM UTC

anm89 wrote: post #13

The productive outpute of a worker has increased. This doesn't mean that the worker has become more productive. This means that the combination of the worker and the tools they are using (ie capital) are more productive. If the only thing that has changed in this equation is that capital is purchasing better tools to make their workers output more than it isn't particularly surprising that workers aren't seeing those…

Increasing productivity via capital investment typically requires workers gain skills to use this capital. Also, the source of that productivity gains caused by capital investment is the labour of workers producing those capital goods, not the investment of currency.

Re: Analysis Shows 'Quiet Fleecing' of US Workers–Not Quiet Quitting–Is Real Problem

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Post by therealbilly » Mon, Sep 12, 2022, 1:52 AM UTC

Many people no longer want to enrich the Pharaoh. They want more beer and wheat in return for building that damn pyramid. I mean what is the point of making someone like Bezo's even more richer. All that profit rake-off should have been shared with the workers.

Re: Analysis Shows 'Quiet Fleecing' of US Workers–Not Quiet Quitting–Is Real Problem

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Post by anm89 » Mon, Sep 12, 2022, 5:01 PM UTC

justahuman74 wrote: post #14

anm89 wrote: post #13

The productive outpute of a worker has increased. This doesn't mean that the worker has become more productive. This means that the combination of the worker and the tools they are using (ie capital) are more productive. If the only thing that has changed in this equation is that capital is purchasing better tools to make their workers output more than it isn't particularly surprising that workers aren't seeing those…

Discussing worker productivity somewhat misses the point, the worker doesn't care about company productivity at all, they care about being able to provide for themselves. It's quite plain that corporate profits went up and cost-of-living went up, but wages did not. There's no avoiding the working being disatisfied with this circumstance.

I'm not making a moral argument. I'm making an economics argument. It's like asking why a ball fell off of a table and saying gravity and the person who pushed it somewhat misses the point because I wanted the ball to be on the table.