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Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

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Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

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Is it better than Ubuntu? Can I have a few workspaces? I think to leave Ubuntu as it became slow for me and Unity is really not cool at all. What do you think? P.S. Can I transfer all my files from Ubuntu to Mint easily?

>Is it better than Ubuntu?

Is Coke better than Pepsi? It boils down more to personal preference. Which one do you like more?

>Unity is really not cool at all.

I use Ubuntu without Unity. Google "remove unity" and follow instructions for whatever version you are using.

Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

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post #12

honest question: why are so many people hating on unity? is it the launcher bar?

Have you used it? The principal thing is that it's different and offers less customization than gnome2 and even gnome3 with gnome-shell. Any action requires a hilarious number of clicks to get done. These sorts of things are self-evident when you've attempted to use Unity for any length of time.

>> Any action requires a hilarious number of clicks to get done.

like what? again, i'm not challenging you, i'm genuinely wondering.

Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

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I run Ubuntu 10.10 as my main OS and it screams. I Installed Mint 12 on a test partition and it is a significant slow down, particularly regarding all things UI. Ubuntu puts out a pretty steady 50fps with translucent desktop cube in 1920x1200, Mint 12 can barley transition between workspaces without a choppy slow down. 5-10 second lock up whenever I use ctr+alt+T. Window color inversion (and apparently most of compiz) is broken. Installing nvidia post release caused Gnome to become totally inoperable, I had to boot with Gnome-No-Effects option. I prefer Mint's Gnome 3 to Ubuntu's Unity, but speaking practically, staying with 10.10 is my only true option. I am disappointed.

Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

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I'm switching my Linux box and a friend's machine to Linux Mint (from Ubuntu), and was going to use v11. I want a simple desktop and something solid that isn't going to be buggy or difficult to setup. I basically use the terminal, emacs, Ruby, and a browser (Chrome). Should I stick with v11 or go ahead and install v12 now? Would it be better to wait a while to let any bugs shake out, or should 12 be pretty solid now?

No problems here using plain ol' debian on my laptop. Stable and fast.

Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

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honest question: why are so many people hating on unity? is it the launcher bar?

Your impression might be biased.

People don't like to vent about how their window manager doesn't get in the way of getting work done. Unhappy people do, so you never know the ratio.

Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

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I run Ubuntu 10.10 as my main OS and it screams. I Installed Mint 12 on a test partition and it is a significant slow down, particularly regarding all things UI. Ubuntu puts out a pretty steady 50fps with translucent desktop cube in 1920x1200, Mint 12 can barley transition between workspaces without a choppy slow down. 5-10 second lock up whenever I use ctr+alt+T. Window color inversion (and apparently most of compiz…

You're comparing apples to oranges, kind of. What you're saying isn't necessarily reflective of Mint 12; it could just as well be Ubuntu 11.10.

Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

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honest question: why are so many people hating on unity? is it the launcher bar?

-Lack of customization

-Lack of bottom taskbar... I greatly dislike the combination launcher/taskbar style of Unity/Mac (Win 7 pulled it off better.) I could fix this except for item #1.

Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

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I'm switching my Linux box and a friend's machine to Linux Mint (from Ubuntu), and was going to use v11. I want a simple desktop and something solid that isn't going to be buggy or difficult to setup. I basically use the terminal, emacs, Ruby, and a browser (Chrome). Should I stick with v11 or go ahead and install v12 now? Would it be better to wait a while to let any bugs shake out, or should 12 be pretty solid now?

No problems here using plain ol' debian on my laptop. Stable and fast.

Huh, that wasn't the question at all.

Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you used it? The principal thing is that it's different and offers less customization than gnome2 and even gnome3 with gnome-shell. Any action requires a hilarious number of clicks to get done. These sorts of things are self-evident when you've attempted to use Unity for any length of time.

>> Any action requires a hilarious number of clicks to get done. like what? again, i'm not challenging you, i'm genuinely wondering.

The author is referring to the fact that the taskbar/dock in Unity doesn't offer the same affordances as the old Gnome2 taskbar. For example, in Ubuntu 11.04, there was no way to open a new terminal from the dock. You had to click on the terminal icon, then click File->New Terminal. As someone who routinely opens a number of terminals for various tasks, that one regression was a source of significant slowdowns.

In addition, Unity is slow on any system that doesn't have a separate graphics card or the latest generation of integrated graphics. There doesn't appear to be a way to turn off the graphical effects to speed it up. Combine that with the usability regressions, and Unity was a definite no-go for me.

That's not to say that I "hate" Unity or will never use it as my desktop environment. I think Unity has a lot of potential. Unfortunately, like all too much software out there, it was released before it had been fully finished. I look forward to trying Unity again when the next Ubuntu LTS (12.04, I believe) is released. Hopefully it'll be far more usable and "finished" by then.

Re: Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” released

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I run Ubuntu 10.10 as my main OS and it screams. I Installed Mint 12 on a test partition and it is a significant slow down, particularly regarding all things UI. Ubuntu puts out a pretty steady 50fps with translucent desktop cube in 1920x1200, Mint 12 can barley transition between workspaces without a choppy slow down. 5-10 second lock up whenever I use ctr+alt+T. Window color inversion (and apparently most of compiz…

That may be more Compiz rather than Mint.
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