I think this is a little sad. Pragmatically, NodeJS is great. But the only reason it's popular is because browsers only run one (deeply flawed) language.
Remind me which existing language(s) aren't deeply flawed?
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#22Silverlight was very popular when it was first released too.
Silverlight was popular? When did this happen...
Re: NodeJS is now the most popular repository on Github
#23I think this is a little sad. Pragmatically, NodeJS is great. But the only reason it's popular is because browsers only run one (deeply flawed) language.
Remind me which existing language(s) aren't deeply flawed?
Yeah seriously. The be all end all of languages has yet to arrive. Language and programming is an art, not some maximist metric. The Mona lisa is as flawed as JavaScript and every other language that exist.
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You are being non sensical. Does Rihanna respond to HTTP verbs? I like Node insofar as it distracts hate away from the Ruby community, but c'mon now.
C'mon what? No, Rihanna does not respond to HTTP verbs. But then again, that's what young teens/early adults listen these days with less appreciation of music. Justin Timberlake, Justin Bieber, Rihanna. C'mon now. What has come to the music industry? I thank Ted Dziuba for knocking the wind out of Node a bit. It puts some perspective and questions to a lot of people's head when it comes to how to use Node.js. Props t…
1. Thirty years ago, this dutch novelty pop act charted #1 in the US Billboard charts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bGQ1-Gmoso (watching it now is kind of great, actually)
2. In much the same way I tire of Node people claiming it's The Best Thing Ever because it has the shiniest Cargo[1] I also can't stand people who hate things purely because other people like it. You hate them because they have the shiniest Cargo.
I'm sure it has a purpose and it solves problems. I'd much prefer to discuss its technical merits, though. (Note: this was not an invitation to discuss its technical merits in this thread)
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#25Looking at that listing the more amazing stat is that twitter bootstrap is #3. That was just released a few months ago and is "simply" an html ui framework. I think this highlights that over anything else, what most developers really need is a solid web ui to get started with.
It just shows that people hype on everything and follow like sheep - doesn't matter if they need particular project or not. Developers are no exception it seems...
I don't think that is what it shows at all. People follow the projects they find interesting or will need to use in the future. This doesn't make it "The most popular thing on the internet", but it does show that people find it useful and fills a need they had.
Your comment was really unhelpful and rude.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
C'mon what? No, Rihanna does not respond to HTTP verbs. But then again, that's what young teens/early adults listen these days with less appreciation of music. Justin Timberlake, Justin Bieber, Rihanna. C'mon now. What has come to the music industry? I thank Ted Dziuba for knocking the wind out of Node a bit. It puts some perspective and questions to a lot of people's head when it comes to how to use Node.js. Props t…
1. Thirty years ago, this dutch novelty pop act charted #1 in the US Billboard charts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bGQ1-Gmoso (watching it now is kind of great, actually) 2. In much the same way I tire of Node people claiming it's The Best Thing Ever because it has the shiniest Cargo[1] I also can't stand people who hate things purely because other people like it. You hate them because they have the shiniest Cargo…
For the record: I don't hate Node.JS as I am using it to explore JS. I'm glad CommonJS exist to introduce common standards to JS (modularity, OS APIs, etc) so I can write JS outside browser.
I am with you that I'm tired to see people pushing NodeJS. But I suppose am even more tired to see people working on some simple web app using NodeJS and pretend that it's Gold. I prefer to see people get better in fundamental concepts as oppose to keep hack-job and move on to the next thing.
I'm tired to meet with people in my day job that keep pushing for the latest tech.
"For the next project we must use JavaScript and NodeJS" or the "I can cut most of the LoC if we were to use JS". Only to hear that "Yeah, I'm not too sure, I just have a gut feeling that we could do with less LoC" after I drilled them as to "why it'll be less LoC? How can we solve X component with JS and its current libraries? How can we test Y automatically and efficiently?"
I'm tired to interview people that put in their resume "I know NodeJS" but flunk fundamental computer science aptitude.
I'm tired to hear "you know, if we re-wrote this bits with Rails, it'll be _MUCH_ better".
For these people, their Java skill is "decent". Their Ruby skill is "decent". Their JS skill is "hey I just read JS The Good Parts and this is how Crockford sez we should write JS" yet still missing the structure, the discipline, the "write for readability not for meta-programming"
Too many Learn-Yourself-24-Hours Ruby programmers out there. Too many Learn-Yourself-24-hours-me-too JavaScript programmers out there.
Ok, enough rant for Saturday morning :) Good day everybody.
Re: NodeJS is now the most popular repository on Github
#27Just to show how Github watchers correlate to real-world popularity, my now-defunct programming language Reia is the #3 most watched Erlang project on Github, ahead of projects like Riak and RabbitMQ: https://github.com/languages/erlang
Also we can compare with StackOverflow tags followers: - C# 22.2K followers - NodeJS 2.2K followers
I think having 10% as many StackOverflow followers as for C# is a big win for an emerging technology.
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Also we can compare with StackOverflow tags followers: - C# 22.2K followers - NodeJS 2.2K followers
I think having 10% as many StackOverflow followers as for C# is a big win for an emerging technology.
also, it would make more sense to compare node to ASP.NET.
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It just shows that people hype on everything and follow like sheep - doesn't matter if they need particular project or not. Developers are no exception it seems...
At the same time, it also shows that developers or hackers are no different that consultants that keep selling new methodologies. Our products are new programming languages, new patterns, new programming paradigm.
What's the name of last thing you sold?
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. Thirty years ago, this dutch novelty pop act charted #1 in the US Billboard charts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bGQ1-Gmoso (watching it now is kind of great, actually) 2. In much the same way I tire of Node people claiming it's The Best Thing Ever because it has the shiniest Cargo[1] I also can't stand people who hate things purely because other people like it. You hate them because they have the shiniest Cargo…
For the record: I don't hate Node.JS as I am using it to explore JS. I'm glad CommonJS exist to introduce common standards to JS (modularity, OS APIs, etc) so I can write JS outside browser. I am with you that I'm tired to see people pushing NodeJS. But I suppose am even more tired to see people working on some simple web app using NodeJS and pretend that it's Gold. I prefer to see people get better in fundamental co…
What do you consider fundamental computer science aptitude?