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Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Are there any monospaced fonts like this, with a focus on hyperlegibility?

Perhaps surprisingly, the ancient Monaco is still a good choice for development work. It has the key features of distinguishable 0/O and 1|Il. (Which you may not be able to distinguish here, depending on font choices).

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Are there any monospaced fonts like this, with a focus on hyperlegibility?

Browsing around, the popular monospaced fonts for coding already have high distinction between glyphs like 8Bi1l.

Also 0/O and '` often matter. There are probably others that don't come to mind immediately.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

#63

An aside: Why is it that most posts about a new product or project some people have put together is usually greeted with skepticism and negativity in HN comments? What is that all about? It is a pattern Ive continuously seen and it seems like only the true home runs receive any kind of praise. Most replies are either about lack of evidence or someone’s alternative preference. I see that latter one a good deal.

Because most of the time, the original post has enumerated all of the good things. There’s no reason to reiterate the points made in the post in the comments, and so the comments add an opposite view.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Reminder that fonts are subjective.

This one is good for specific people, not everyone. I can't use it because I find it overly rounded with tics.

An example of a font that is also meant to be legible, but is on the squarish side, is Tiresias Screenfont.

Increased legibility does NOT mean "flow". Just because each character is more "distinct" does not mean that the whole word is able to be processed with ease. Important to evaluate them in body text.

Also, one's cultural background absolutely affects which fonts are preferred. If you grew up with German blackletter writing, you're not necessarily going to like or appreciate a sans-serif font. In Germany's case, the change from blackletter to latin shapes happened fairly recently (WW2). It's happening now again, Kazakhstan has decided to stop using cyrillic and change to latin characters.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why PDF at all? Is there a reason to put the online license in a PDF? Or any other places, like the restaurant menus? is there anybody who wants/needs to print the license or the restaurant menu?

My guess? They use an agency to service their website and made the license in PDF so the org can change it without incurring additional cost of an update.

To OPs point, a .TXT would work just as well.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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I like this idea, but when I go to the web page... > Download the Font… and change the world! By downloading, installing and/or using the font software, you confirm that you have read and agree to be bound by the terms of this End-User License Agreement... Sigh. I guess I need to read that EULA. Anyway, clicking on that then downloads a pdf rather than a nice link to some web page text. Sigh. So then anyway, trying t…

I had such a different experience. I found the EULA surprisingly readible and easy to understand. Just 5 easy bullet points rather than a multi page document of legalese.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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I like this idea, but when I go to the web page... > Download the Font… and change the world! By downloading, installing and/or using the font software, you confirm that you have read and agree to be bound by the terms of this End-User License Agreement... Sigh. I guess I need to read that EULA. Anyway, clicking on that then downloads a pdf rather than a nice link to some web page text. Sigh. So then anyway, trying t…

> By downloading, installing and/or using the font software, you confirm that you have read and agree to be bound by the terms of this End-User License Agreement ... says them. I don't agree and I don't confirm. I can download the font without accepting/consenting to whatever text they put on the web page. And if they're not ok with that - they can limit the availability of the download to only those who accept whate…

You can clone a GPL-licensed repository without clicking any checkboxes either, but if you violate the license, you can expect to be sued.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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post #23
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why it wouldn't open for you, but it opens fine in Chrome on Mac. I thought it would be some ridiculous 50 page legalese but it's actually only 1.5 pages long. it's basically a license similar to what you'd see on a Github repo.

But why PDF at all? Is there a reason to put the online license in a PDF? Or any other places, like the restaurant menus? is there anybody who wants/needs to print the license or the restaurant menu?

I kind of understand it for restaurant menus. Both "real" restaurant and takeway places need to print actual menus and/or flyers, and it's just easier to create a PDF document and upload it to your website than it is to reformat the document to be useful as web page in many cases if you are not well versed in this. Since PDF readers in browsers got decent, this isn't too much of an issue anymore anyway, IMHO.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It downloads rather than opening in your browser because that’s how you’ve configured your browser. For me it opens in the browser (albeit in a new tab). There’s nothing wrong with the PDF, I can open it with all the PDF readers on my machine; it’s a basic v.1.6 PDF file. This is, in fact a “nice link to some web page text”: a page of text served over the web.

I think linking a PDF is less friendly to users who need Text-to-Speech technology, something the Braille Institute should be sensitive to...

That’s a good point. I have no idea if Text-to-Speech works with PDF.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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post #56

I feel as though there should be a standard set of tests that any or all fonts run through to demonstrate the various properties they want to claim. Don't tell me "better", tell me "Scored an 8.6 on legibility in the standard font assessment test".

That would be valuable in comparing and searching for fonts. But some of these criteria are aesthetic.
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