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Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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The Critical Drinker - a YouTube movie reviewer who is very very selective about what he calls a good movie, says: "RRR is the best movie you've never seen" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKN6FAKjFPU

I don't remember this guy ever being positive about a movie, so that's some serious enthusiasm.

He liked Top Gun Maverick very much too. The review was fantastic.

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Obviously that is highly subjective. I really liked it, as did my 16 year old son. Although, being British, it was weird to see my countrymen as the cartoon baddies[1]. It is completely over the top and fantastical. But that is part of the appeal. I thought it made a very refreshing change from hollywood movies. [1] Not without reason. Read up on the depradations of the East India company

Thanks for having the awareness of the atrocities committed by the British. While British characters in the movie may look like "cartoon baddies", the kind of atrocities the British did on their colonies is no cartoon material. They really did many unspeakable things and committed genocide of millions in the subcontinent alone.

The British Empire certainly did some awful stuff. Anyone who thinks the British Empire took over other countries purely for the benefit of the locals must be a bit dim. But I'm not sure 'genocide' is a fair accusation. Certainly large numbers of Indians (and Irish and others) died due to their callous policies (e.g. Bengal and Irish famines), but I'm not sure that classifies as genocide.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Obviously that is highly subjective. I really liked it, as did my 16 year old son. Although, being British, it was weird to see my countrymen as the cartoon baddies[1]. It is completely over the top and fantastical. But that is part of the appeal. I thought it made a very refreshing change from hollywood movies. [1] Not without reason. Read up on the depradations of the East India company

Random digression. In wake of recent demise of the Queen, good curious how much do British see the colonion past as glorious and how much as a dark legacy?

When I went to schools (40 years ago) history was all about the saxons, romans and vikings. Plus a bit about WWI and the Russian revolution. I don't remember doing anything much about the British Empire. But it was always tacitly assumed that the British Empire was "a good thing".

I think most educated British people now know there is quite a lot that was "problematic" about the empire. Interestingly there is a very good new British podcast called "Empire" which talks in a lot of detail about what the British did in India and it is not comfortable listening.

I would say the British Empire wasn't as cruel as the Spanish, Portugese or Belgian empires. But that is a very low bar.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Obviously that is highly subjective. I really liked it, as did my 16 year old son. Although, being British, it was weird to see my countrymen as the cartoon baddies[1]. It is completely over the top and fantastical. But that is part of the appeal. I thought it made a very refreshing change from hollywood movies. [1] Not without reason. Read up on the depradations of the East India company

> it was weird to see my countrymen as the cartoon baddies I really enjoyed IP Man 2 for the one dimensional portrayal of the British antagonists. Disclaimer: I’m from the colonies.

Are the "Ip Man" films supposed to be based on this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ip_Man ?

The few clips I have seen seem to have no relation to the life of the historical figure whatsoever. It is so disappointing when they make a film with a real historical figure and then distort their story out of all recognition (e.g. "Dragon" for Bruce Lee and "Imitation game" for Alan Turing).

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Random digression. In wake of recent demise of the Queen, good curious how much do British see the colonion past as glorious and how much as a dark legacy?

Unless you were a baron or a lord, I doubt many British people got any benefit. Britain and most of its old colonies are pretty multi-cultural now (more so than any other countries colonies) I think that and standard english are probably the only real benefits we can see today.

I expect a lot of the resources from the colonies were used to finance the Royal Navy.

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> This person also said that AI porn will destroy all the current porn companies in 10 years and that small groups of people will soon be able to make entire movies, Here's the thread in question [1] where I made that claim. > so I wouldn't take their extrapolations too seriously. Long bets 10 years $10,000. Let's go. I'm serious. Not that this is my thing (it isn't), and not to yuck anyone's yum, but my field has a…

> do they threaten the porn industry. In which world do you think the porn industry is just going to wait around doing nothing instead of exploiting these tools and resources for their own benefit?

It's typically new players that disrupt legacy incumbents.

There are exceptions, such as monopolistic conglomerates with multiple industry-spanning revenue streams to draw down.

But by and large, new tech cycles bring new blood and fresh perspectives that grow fast free of accumulated baggage.

Would existing players be willing to invest 90% of their energy in pursuing these new methods (that are risky), potentially firing the staff that maintain the existing systems? Unlikely. And so it's unlikely that they could grow as fast against a 100% agile new upstart. One that attracts talent and capital and has a promising growth narrative.

Innovator's Dilemma.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Given the number of movies made and regions, and decades, I’d run out of breath. But I’d start here. Malayalam Films : Known for their subtlety and craft in film making, and obsession with crime novels. Dhrishyam part 1 & 2 are like no movies I’ve seen in Hollywood. Hindi Films: Or Bollywood movies, known for their big stars, great attention to set pieces of grand dance sequence s and decent romantic comedies / sport…

> “Zindagi Na milega dubara” Yeah this movie was made for a very specific audience going through a certain age and point in life, ('buddy road movie' but made for Indian millennials) hardly a great work of art. First it was 'Dil Chahta Hai', when the Indian millennials were of college age or around that time. A movie about three friends hanging out and dreaming of the future they will have with the kind of partners t…

I appreciate your comment and insight. But I’m an American Gen-Xer and I enjoyed Zindagi Na Milega Dobara very much. So it can appeal to other people too.

For other folks reading I always recommend Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge (DDLJ) as the Bollywood movie to start with. It’s a bit silly and over the top (especially the fight sequences) but it has a lot of heart. I miss old Bollywood movies like this that actually had lots of singing and dancing. And it set a record for most Filmfare awards won when it came out so critics obviously liked it too.

Sometimes I wish people would talk about really old Bollywood too. Old Devdas, Barsaat, etc. There are some great movies there. I like Satyajit Ray a lot too (I know he isn’t Bollywood) but I wish people could see greatness in old Bollywood as well. I just rewatched Guide recently for example. Still a good movie.

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Hah point taken, let me put it a different way. In American films, if someone does extreme, superhuman stunts, the filmmaker typically feels pressure to explain that the character is actually superhuman in some way and not an ordinary guy with an office job. And he or she will be in peak physical shape. In Indian film, an utterly ordinary character in "office job" physical condition will catch bullets, run faster tha…

> In Indian film, an utterly ordinary character in "office job" physical condition will catch bullets, run faster than a full speed train, etc. No pressure to explain the seeming contradiction with ordinary reality. The film could be considered a romance, having ordinary people as protagonists, and these characters would be doing the above-mentioned stunts as part of the plot. Kind of like anime...

It’s funny you should say that. RRR was the first Indian movie I’ve watched that felt like anime to me. I think it’s actually a very enlightening comparison.

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What organizations do you consider to be sane, rational center/center-left (vox) and leftist (jacobin) media? Is it possible you consider every leftest media outlet between cookoo and deranged?

> Is it possible you consider every leftest media outlet between cookoo and deranged? Yes. I also consider every right wing media outlet to be between nutty and rabid. Horseshoe theory and all that.

Media is mostly disingenuous and needs chaos or outrage to get viewership.

I remember when India had conducted an airstrike on terrorist camps , INDIAN channels left w and right w alike invited their Pakistani defence guests and practically taunted them to start a war! (which thankfully didn’t happen)

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Really weird that we're reviewing a movie on a tech platform. Also, your comment suggests a need for western validation which I think is not needed for Asian cinema. I just enjoy Chinese and Korean cinema for the way they are. I searched for this film and seems its loved a lot by westerners too. Sorry if I misunderstood you buddy!

Relatedly, I’ve come full circle on my feelings when it comes to Indian movies. I grew up with Bollywood/lollywood movies, and pretty much stopped watching all of this silly stuff upon arriving to America and thought the breaking out in a song in the middle of things was absurd. I don’t know what changed but now I’m not just down with it I’m actually a big fan. I’m there to be entertained - give me Gesamtkunstwerk; I…

Belated correction (sorry, wrote it on a smartphone!):

s/belief/disbelief/

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