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Where did I say I didn’t know that? You’re putting words in my mouth.
Because you posted a link to an article that claimed otherwise and commended a comment that got it wrong.
Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”
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Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”
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Indian action films typically don't strive for believable action scenes, like American films do. Instead, they apply the effects and stunts excessively -- they go over the top in a major way. The embarrassment is for the comparably unsophisticated tastes, and I don't share the feeling but I can understand. It's like everyone discovering that your uncle is addicted to something cheap and insubstantial that only childr…
> Indian action films typically don't strive for believable action scenes, like American films do. I'm taking your "believable American action scenes" with a big semi full of salt.
In American films, if someone does extreme, superhuman stunts, the filmmaker typically feels pressure to explain that the character is actually superhuman in some way and not an ordinary guy with an office job. And he or she will be in peak physical shape.
In Indian film, an utterly ordinary character in "office job" physical condition will catch bullets, run faster than a full speed train, etc. No pressure to explain the seeming contradiction with ordinary reality. The film could be considered a romance, having ordinary people as protagonists, and these characters would be doing the above-mentioned stunts as part of the plot.
These aren't hard and fast rules, both sides of the divide deviate from them, but that's been my observation.
Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”
#173I hope to have one of these articles about FreeCAD one day. Maybe the stakes are lower for movies than engineering and that's why it hasn't happened yet.
I spent a solid month trying to switch from Fusion 360 to FreeCAD (as a hobbyist maker) and while I got to the point where I could pretty much make anything I needed… it never stopped being a struggle, and taking twice as long. I really really want an OSS alternative to Fusion/etc but FreeCAD needs a lot of work before it’ll even come close.
At least this is what I seen 5-7 years ago, gave up very quickly struggling with it - a software supposed to make things easier, not more complex, and FreeCAD made things unnecessarily difficult and complicated. Maybe I should look at it again now, hopefully things improved.
Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”
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> At this point, it seems that the exclusion of muslims, sikhs and some Christians etc. From the script as freedom fighters seems deliberate. It's a fantasy based very loosely on two historical characters. Bheem for the bulk of the movie pretends to be a Muslim and is sheltered by a Muslim family that knows his true identity. Claiming that this somehow excludes non-Hindus is farcical. > Bheem is a nod to lower caste…
That Ram can map to Alluri, but the mapping to Lord Rama is absolutely loud and vociferous. I could be mistaken about the mapping of Bheem, but given that Komaram Bheem is also lower caste, my meta point stands virtually unchanged. And that's just one point amongst the 10 I have made with references. Moreover, it is very easy for me to see that you are upper caste hindu - about 40% of indias population. You should as…
Any elements that you might perceive as mapping to Rama is an homage to the 1974 classic movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alluri_Sitarama_Raju
That representation is what is etched into the minds of Telugu audience.
> I could be mistaken about the mapping of Bheem
You are mistaken.
> And that's just one point amongst the 10 I have made with references.
Yeah, the rest them are either unfalsifiable or statements of opinion.
> Moreover, it is very easy for me to see that you are upper caste hindu
I'm fascinated to know how you came to that conclusion. I'm a half-caste with one side of my family entitled to minority status. Try again.
> Yes, I watched parts of the movie.
Wait, you didn't even watch the movie in its entirety?
Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”
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A good chunk of that goes to actor pay. For instance, in the $200m budgeted Gray Man, Ryan Gosling and Chris Evans took home $20m each. Even net those two salaries, Gray Man was twice the budget of RRR and visually pales in comparison to it. Huge budgets mean nothing.
Americans are paid a higher wage. Dollar goes further with exchanges
For now. The rest of the world is rapidly catching up in pretty much every sphere.
But take movies:
America has but a paltry 330 M people. The appetite for "American" media will wane as India, China, and other vastly more populous Asian countries begin to produce Hollywood-caliber films. American box office increasingly relies on non-domestic consumption. Chinese films are doing bigger revenues, and soon Indian films will too.
Korea is starting to sweep the Oscars, Emmy's, and Golden Globes.
Hollywood is going to be washed out by the vast talent, capital, and differing tastes beyond American borders.
The age of the "American" film has already peaked. (It's not just the market growing up. Kids today no longer want to be Hollywood stars - they want to be famous on YouTube, TikTok, and Twitch.)
The same trend is observable in other fields. Science, technology, fashion, etc.
edit for downvotes: Do not confuse this post for anti-American sentiment. It's an honest current and forward-looking assessment.
Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”
#176Who cares if they used Blender or Maya. As an Indian (and a South Indian at that), I must say I’m embarrassed at the level of attention this movie is getting for its over the top use of cringey special effects. There are so many other worthwhile Indian films to watch and enjoy.
what would you recommend? overthetop cgi is equated with bollywood, to my knowledge
No. The overwhelming majority of Bollywood movies don't have much CGI. And RRR isn't a Bollywood movie to begin with.
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Because you posted a link to an article that claimed otherwise and commended a comment that got it wrong.
I feel like you two are both on the same side?
Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”
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Americans are paid a higher wage. Dollar goes further with exchanges
> Americans are paid a higher wage. For now. The rest of the world is rapidly catching up in pretty much every sphere. But take movies: America has but a paltry 330 M people. The appetite for "American" media will wane as India, China, and other vastly more populous Asian countries begin to produce Hollywood-caliber films. American box office increasingly relies on non-domestic consumption. Chinese films are doing bi…
I don’t think Korea won a single award at the Oscars this year. They won a single golden globe and two Emmys. It’s just parasite and squid game, so far. They are very far from sweeping the award ceremonies.
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imagine thinking these websites are centrist because you have more ridiculous extremist websites on the left and the right.
Vox is literally the definition of neolib trash. I don't understand how you can call it far left. People on the left don't actually mind the label, but don't call shitlib stuff far left. The left is explicitly opposed to neoliberalism. If you wanna read something actually on the left: https://jacobin.com/
Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”
#180The Critical Drinker - a YouTube movie reviewer who is very very selective about what he calls a good movie, says: "RRR is the best movie you've never seen" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKN6FAKjFPU