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Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Those articles reaffirm more the extreme political mentality of vox and slate than any political leanings of the director. That these websites practically thrive on conjuring up issues even where none exists should surprise no one.

Imagine thinking that about those boring-ass centrist websites.

imagine thinking these websites are centrist because you have more ridiculous extremist websites on the left and the right.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Title is misleading. It was made primarily in Blender but not entirely in it. From the article > Blender was used in our entire pipeline aside from the FX department Houdini was likely used for FX work since Blender isn’t quite competitive with it yet. Additionally, this is about a single studio’s pipeline and not reflective of all the total work involved.

Speaking of Houdini, https://github.com/setzer22/blackjack is an excellent open source alternative that loses a ton of cruft and is scriptable in Lua. I highly recommend checking it out if this is your kind of thing

I like Blackjack and I'm even working on porting some of my Rust geometry code to Blackjack nodes. But calling it a Houdini alternative is, pardon my French, BS. :)

Blackjack atm covers less than Houdini is usually used for what is called FX/effects in VFX. I.e. fire, water, explosions, destructions. Also crowd stuff is not seldomly done in Houdini.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Who cares if they used Blender or Maya. As an Indian (and a South Indian at that), I must say I’m embarrassed at the level of attention this movie is getting for its over the top use of cringey special effects. There are so many other worthwhile Indian films to watch and enjoy.

What would you recommend to watch instead?

Delhi Belly for sure!

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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I saw it in imax at the insistence of an acquaintance. While watching I kept thinking: "ok, so this is the results when you have a massive budget, access to lots of designers and top-of-the-line tools". I'm totally thunderstruck to learn it was all done in Blender pipeline. Bravo for making this possible.

The budget of ~60 million is huge by Indian standard not by Hollywood where >200 million is now increasingly common.

My favorite comparison now is to look at what the Indian Mars Orbiter Mission cost.

It cost $73 million (according to Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Orbiter_Mission) RRR's budget was $72 million (according to Wikipedia: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RRR_(film))

Seems a bit crazy with that comparison.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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> Tumbbad is somewhat considered masterpiece of indian cinema. By whom? Don't get me wrong, Tumbbad is an excellent movie but masterpiece is over selling it. And the low budget for VFX really shows. > kannad Wince

I'm curious what the wince is for - do Kannada-language films have a reputation?

> I'm curious what the wince is for

The language is called Kannada. Schwa deletion turns it into Kannad which sounds grating and seeing it written without the a is even worse.

> do Kannada-language films have a reputation?

I'll just say Sturgeon's law applies.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Who cares if they used Blender or Maya. As an Indian (and a South Indian at that), I must say I’m embarrassed at the level of attention this movie is getting for its over the top use of cringey special effects. There are so many other worthwhile Indian films to watch and enjoy.

I care! As an open source advocate, it is important to me to see Blender being used in successful feature films, regardless of the artistic merits of the film itself.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Who cares if they used Blender or Maya. As an Indian (and a South Indian at that), I must say I’m embarrassed at the level of attention this movie is getting for its over the top use of cringey special effects. There are so many other worthwhile Indian films to watch and enjoy.

What would you recommend to watch instead?

If you have Hulu watch Drishyam (Malayalam) and its sequel on Amazon prime Drishyam 2.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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I'm curious what the wince is for - do Kannada-language films have a reputation?

> I'm curious what the wince is for The language is called Kannada . Schwa deletion turns it into Kannad which sounds grating and seeing it written without the a is even worse. > do Kannada-language films have a reputation? I'll just say Sturgeon's law applies.

Ahhh sorry I didn't realise, I thought it was just a typo :)

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Is it any good?

It’s highly enjoyable though it is also very nationalist propaganda in parts, which foreigners won’t pick up on. For the most part it never becomes an issue because the brunt of the movie is fighting colonialism and therefore quite appropriate and incredibly good. The end credit scene is the only part that I’d consider problematic from a messaging standpoint as it takes a hard line on who they celebrate and isn’t sub…

+1 on that. I only watched the action sequences in the movie as RRR is not the kind if movie I enjoy.

But the end of the movie, makes it quite clear that it is a nod to right wing Hindu nationalism. The most pointed example is the exclusion, in the end credits, of the 2 biggest icons of Indian liberation - Mahatma Gandhi and the first prime minister Nehru( the British locked him up for over a decade) who were secular liberals. Nehru happens to be the great grandfather of the main opposition leader Rahul Gandhi.

As the right wing Hindu pre independence movement largely connived with the colonialists, the right wing government today is focused on appropriating a select few independence fighters and projecting them as right wing icons even though they were liberals or socialists. 3 prominent figures.

1. Bhagat Singh - a socialist who is now projected as a right wing icon and stripped of his Sikh beard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Singh

2. Sardar Patel - Nehru and Gandhis colleague who had some right wing sympathies, but actually banned RSS (Modi's organization) following the assassination of Gandhi by RSS workers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Unity

3. Subhash Bose - A foolhardy military strategist who tried to partner with the Nazis to fight the British. Eventually, assisting the Japanese in Burma and helping them invade India. Gandhi was extremely wary of Bose's plans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhas_Chandra_Bose

Towards the end, it projects the independence fight as a largely Hindu fight against British and anoints upper caste Rama as a leader of lower caste Bheem. At this point, it seems that the exclusion of muslims, sikhs and some Christians etc. From the script as freedom fighters seems deliberate.

Bheem is a nod to lower caste icon bhimrao Ambedkar, who converted from Hinduism to buddhism to escape caste hierarchies. This could have been a positive inclusion in the story, but it is flipped on its head when Bheem is shown swearing fealty to upper caste Rama in the end. The Ramayana itself, has a negative attitude towards lower castes, which makes this highly improper.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._R._Ambedkar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shambuka [1]

Moreover the choice of Rama is sensitive in the current political situation in India as Rama is being used as a tool to bully poor Muslims on the streets.

https://www.google.com/search?q=muslim+jai+shree+ram

[1] You will notice that Shambuka is noted as an "interpolated" character in Ramayana. This almost certainly true, but the Godliness of Rama as an avatar of Vishnu is part of the same interpolation. The original smaller Ramayana is simply the story of an "ideal king". This was converted into a story of divinity by the interpolation of Godliness, sexism and casteism(uttara and bala kanda) . Wikipedia has been edited to clarify that Shambuka is a later interpolation, while the article on Rama and Ramayana simply forget to headline that the divinity of Rama is a later interpolation. The interpolation makes complete sense as the brahmins successfully solidified the caste system and inserted casteist and sexist texts into several ancient sanskrit texts to anoint the caste system with divine status. There is a small ongoing movement to refer to the current version of Hinduism as Brahminism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Brahminism

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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For anyone unfamiliar with the movie or seeking some perspective on the film, I did very much enjoy this review/retrospective of RRR by Patrick H Willems, a channel which I generally enjoy. The same video is also on Nebula for folks with a subscription.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPU2D5Ftjbw

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