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Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by mikymoothrowa »

JohnBooty wrote: post #83
dagmx wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s highly enjoyable though it is also very nationalist propaganda in parts, which foreigners won’t pick up on. For the most part it never becomes an issue because the brunt of the movie is fighting colonialism and therefore quite appropriate and incredibly good. The end credit scene is the only part that I’d consider problematic from a messaging standpoint as it takes a hard line on who they celebrate and isn’t sub…

Thank you for posting that. I learned a lot! Like many (most?) Westerners, I obviously appreciated the anti-colonialism aspect, but had no idea about all of that other context. I am deeply appreciative.

I’m Indian and I didn’t see those either.

There’s no scenario in which slate/vox would have written a ideologically uncoated positive review of this movie.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by sprkwd »

paisawalla wrote: post #57
unmole wrote: post #49

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> embarrassed Why are you embarassed?

Indian action films typically don't strive for believable action scenes, like American films do. Instead, they apply the effects and stunts excessively -- they go over the top in a major way. The embarrassment is for the comparably unsophisticated tastes, and I don't share the feeling but I can understand. It's like everyone discovering that your uncle is addicted to something cheap and insubstantial that only childr…

> Indian action films typically don't strive for believable action scenes, like American films do. Instead, they apply the effects and stunts excessively -- they go over the top in a major way.

That’s why I like them. So refreshing.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by random314 »

GiorgioG wrote: post #99
paisawalla wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indian action films typically don't strive for believable action scenes, like American films do. Instead, they apply the effects and stunts excessively -- they go over the top in a major way. The embarrassment is for the comparably unsophisticated tastes, and I don't share the feeling but I can understand. It's like everyone discovering that your uncle is addicted to something cheap and insubstantial that only childr…

I don't think American films strive for believable action scenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elpUGB9Ap1Y

Except that it is claimed that Tom Cruise actually performed that stunt

https://youtu.be/afS5ks54tms

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by pen2l »

basti724 wrote: post #102
krama wrote: post #46

Who cares if they used Blender or Maya. As an Indian (and a South Indian at that), I must say I’m embarrassed at the level of attention this movie is getting for its over the top use of cringey special effects. There are so many other worthwhile Indian films to watch and enjoy.

Really weird that we're reviewing a movie on a tech platform. Also, your comment suggests a need for western validation which I think is not needed for Asian cinema. I just enjoy Chinese and Korean cinema for the way they are. I searched for this film and seems its loved a lot by westerners too. Sorry if I misunderstood you buddy!

Relatedly, I’ve come full circle on my feelings when it comes to Indian movies. I grew up with Bollywood/lollywood movies, and pretty much stopped watching all of this silly stuff upon arriving to America and thought the breaking out in a song in the middle of things was absurd.

I don’t know what changed but now I’m not just down with it I’m actually a big fan. I’m there to be entertained - give me Gesamtkunstwerk; I’ll suspend belief for those few brief moments, give me wonderful melodies and over-the-top sights. All types of art each have their place! I mean, we put up with soliloquys in Shakespeare plays, we cherish fanciful wordplay, why not give me songs!

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by pessimizer »

mikymoothrowa wrote: post #109
dagmx wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s highly enjoyable though it is also very nationalist propaganda in parts, which foreigners won’t pick up on. For the most part it never becomes an issue because the brunt of the movie is fighting colonialism and therefore quite appropriate and incredibly good. The end credit scene is the only part that I’d consider problematic from a messaging standpoint as it takes a hard line on who they celebrate and isn’t sub…

Those articles reaffirm more the extreme political mentality of vox and slate than any political leanings of the director. That these websites practically thrive on conjuring up issues even where none exists should surprise no one.

Imagine thinking that about those boring-ass centrist websites.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by unmole »

dagmx wrote: post #34
vipa123 wrote: post #5

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Is it any good?

It’s highly enjoyable though it is also very nationalist propaganda in parts, which foreigners won’t pick up on. For the most part it never becomes an issue because the brunt of the movie is fighting colonialism and therefore quite appropriate and incredibly good. The end credit scene is the only part that I’d consider problematic from a messaging standpoint as it takes a hard line on who they celebrate and isn’t sub…

Honestly, a lot of the criticism reads like a tin-foil fan theory. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

And some of it makes me question the author's familiarity with the actual background.

> he’s seen assuming a wardrobe that invokes his namesake Rama

No, he assumes a wardrobe that invokes Alluri Sitaramaraju, the historical figure his character is based on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alluri_Sitarama_Raju

And this popular representation and the fictional fiancee named Sita come from a classic 1974 movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alluri_Seetarama_Raju_(film)

Rajamouli is not exactly big on subtlety. If the troubling implications need so much ink to explain, maybe the implications aren't actually there?

> Essentially it’s holding up some of the more radical freedom fighters and downplaying the more pacifist and equitable ones

Sardar Patel, Chidambaram Pillai and Tanguturi Prakasam were not radicals, they were lifelong members of the INC and were committed to Gandhian non-violence. Bhagat Singh and Subhash Chandra Bose were capital S Socialists, it doesn't get more equitable than that. This argument would have held weight if someone like Savarkar was included. As it stands, it makes no sense.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by mikymoothrowa »

smcl wrote: post #95
unmole wrote: post #93

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> Tumbbad is somewhat considered masterpiece of indian cinema. By whom? Don't get me wrong, Tumbbad is an excellent movie but masterpiece is over selling it. And the low budget for VFX really shows. > kannad Wince

I'm curious what the wince is for - do Kannada-language films have a reputation?

probably for “Kannad” instead of Kannada

and if KGF 2 is any indication, they should stop making movies altogether

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by mikymoothrowa »

pvsukale3 wrote: post #43

Unrelated: If you enjoyed RRR and it's over the top drama, action sequences you might also like following movies. 1) Bahubali 1 & 2 (same director) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G62HrubdD6o 2) KGF chapter 1 and 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qah9sSIXJqk

I second Bahubali

but please do not waste your time watching KGF. It’s just a series of hype scenes made for tik tok recreation. Not a movie. Has great music though

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by unmole »

mikymoothrowa wrote: post #117
smcl wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious what the wince is for - do Kannada-language films have a reputation?

probably for “Kannad” instead of Kannada and if KGF 2 is any indication, they should stop making movies altogether

> probably for “Kannad” instead of Kannada

Yup. It's inconsequential but I find it very grating.

> and if KGF 2 is any indication, they should stop making movies altogether

I absolutely hated KGF 1 and didn't bother with the sequel. I honestly don't understand why people compare it to RRR.

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